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It’s actually the opposite of balanced; it’s polarized .
Polarised, but still balanced due to the symmetric nature of the poem's structure!
Polarized-but-balanced is at least as misguided as separate-but-equal.
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I don't know about you but my answer is "the ones standing next to me that I have the means and ability to help sustainably."
The point is, regardless of individual answers, there is always a person that doesn't make your cut. Same applies to entire countries; their capabilities and societal will are greater than an individual's, but still limited. Declarations of very broad commitments towards the rest of humanity may sound noble, but wise(r) people should stay away from them.
I feel like you're applying programmer brain to statements that aren't actually commitments but north stars pointing us in the direction of how we should try and do better. Or phrased differently, "We might be the greatest country on earth, but an even greater country would ___"
And in this case to me the blank is "take on the world's tired huddled masses and set them up to be just as self-sufficient and successful as their native born." And I think that's pretty actionable, just about anyone could probably think of more than a few things that would push us closer to this.
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Could you point out where they are supporting "unchecked migration"? The statement there only reads to me as a call to have compassion for those caught up in what will be a perpetually escalating migration crisis (and will likely soon make migrants of those who are currently protecting their borders). > Pretending the development of a programming language is inexorably linked to unchecked immigration is disingenuous.…
I'm not sure how to interpret these lines in a way that doesn't suggest support for unchecked immigration: > Do not be so stupid to think that > A place should only belong to those who are born there >... > It is not okay to say > Build a wall to keep them out
I'm guessing you're not an American by this comment, at least from the US
>Do not be so stupid to think that >A place should only belong to those who are born there
Does not imply unchecked migration since the entire social fabric of the United States is a based upon people moving here from somewhere else. Currently around 14% of US citizens are foreign born. Claiming they don't belong here would be considered an extreme view even among fairly right-wing Americans. Implying that only people born here belong here is, in fact, a absolutely 0 immigration view, that would essentially destroy the United States since our population growth is almost entirely from immigration.
Likewise:
>It is not okay to say >Build a wall to keep them out
US immigration has not resorted to wall building as a form of immigration control for all but the most recent years. Again, nobody I know who is opposed to wall building supports "unchecked migration".
Re: Python 3.12
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For people who downvote Bostonian for his comment, how would you like it if that announcement, say, contained an abortion-related proclamation that you don't agree with? "Share our food, Share our homes and Share our countries" is quite a big demand on everyone else. I am certainly not willing to do so without limit and without regard to context (e.g. the Muslim gang war that flared up in Sweden).
Sad, I guess in 2023 sharing isn't caring. It's a statement about immigrants being people, that the hateful stories we tell about them are false that we have responsibility to them as fellow humans. It advocates for no specific political action, you can hold these beliefs and still be against immigration for whatever reason.
> It's a statement about immigrants being people
It's also a statement against rational thinking and discussions because it portrays both sides to an almost satirical level: "no borders" vs "all migrants are thieves/murderer/bombers"
Re: Python 3.12
#136What's new: https://docs.python.org/dev/whatsnew/3.12.html Summary, sorry for poor formatting, I'm not sure HN can do a list of any kind? New features More flexible f-string parsing, allowing many things previously disallowed (PEP 701). Support for the buffer protocol in Python code (PEP 688). A new debugging/profiling API (PEP 669). Support for isolated subinterpreters with separate Global Interpreter Locks (PEP 684…
> I'm not sure HN can do a list of any kind?
It can, just use `-` characters for bullets, like in Markdown. They won't render as Unicode bullet points but dashes are fine enough.
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There is 8 billion people in the world, with the number increasing still. You will always have to choose whom you feel responsibility towards, because all 8 billion are beyond anyone's capability.
I don't know about you but my answer is "the ones standing next to me that I have the means and ability to help sustainably."
If anything else, as is, this statement could be used by both sides
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#138Earlier quoted context omitted.
Could you point out where they are supporting "unchecked migration"? The statement there only reads to me as a call to have compassion for those caught up in what will be a perpetually escalating migration crisis (and will likely soon make migrants of those who are currently protecting their borders). > Pretending the development of a programming language is inexorably linked to unchecked immigration is disingenuous.…
I'm not sure how to interpret these lines in a way that doesn't suggest support for unchecked immigration: > Do not be so stupid to think that > A place should only belong to those who are born there >... > It is not okay to say > Build a wall to keep them out
It's against zero immigration and building walls to keep out irregular immigrants (by definition) like refugees, none of that implies unchecked immigration.
Re: Python 3.12
#139Holy shit, actual multithreading. Never thought I'd see the day, good on the Python team for making such great improvements.
Eh, you still can't pass Python objects between them. This just means that if you run multiple instances of Python, you can do so in the same process. If you use the C api.
Re: Python 3.12
#140Everything aside, I enjoyed the "And now for something completely different" part.
Great! Hadn’t seen that initially.
That’s what I adore about truly open source projects such as Python, but also Linux or Rust, for example. They’re not polished products of faceless corporations. They have rough edges, as everything does, and that’s okay.
And time and again some human spirit shines through, like it does here. A welcome reminder we’re all in this together, and that next quarter’s shareholder revenue is genuinely meaningless in the bigger picture.