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The Best Birth Control In The World Is For Men

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Re: The Best Birth Control In The World Is For Men

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Post by msbarnett »

dfc wrote: post #52
angersock wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Erm, I think there may have been a bit of a misunderstanding in my attempt at some dry humor. :( I intended to imply disagreement with your claim, mostly due to the one-sided nature of it (as my parent reply suggested). I imagine the downvotes are due to the fact that your phrasing seems to imply that the male should have no say in the matter. It's not that women should not have control over the process (perhaps even…

Thank you for the clarification and taking the time to respond. I did not mean to imply that men should not have a say in the matter. I think I might have placed too much emphasis and an overly broad definition of "best." My point was that given the biological constraints females ultimately are the most impacted by pregnancy. As a male I definitely value improvements for male birth control. However from a societal po…

With no reasoning given it's not a particularly valuable post in terms of contribution to the conversation, and it forces people to speculate about why you're declaring it to be "the best". There are any number of unflattering possibilities, which probably accounts for no small measure of the downvotes.

Re: The Best Birth Control In The World Is For Men

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Post by esrauch »

natasham25 wrote: post #54

I've asked my guy friends whether they would get this procedure, and none of them will. Guys expect women to mess with their bodies, but are not willing to make the sacrifice themselves when it comes down to it, even though this is more safe and harmless than pumping your body with hormones every day.

I would rather pump my body full of hormones than have invasive surgery. You wouldn't?

Re: The Best Birth Control In The World Is For Men

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Post by ImprovedSilence »

dfc wrote: post #5

The best birth control in the world is one that allows women to have control (and peace of mind) over the process/efficacy.

I can't explain the downvotes, but you brought up a very good point, any guy can just say he's good to go, and be lying just to get a piece. A girls best to bet is to look out for herself.

Re: The Best Birth Control In The World Is For Men

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Post by dfc »

nostromo wrote: post #51
dfc wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its not ideal if it is only verifiable by one sex.

Like the pill?

The pill is certainly not the realization of the ideal form of birth control. However in an non-perfect universe the form of birth control that is verifiable by females (the sex that is impacted the most by pregnancy) is the closes to ideal.

Re: The Best Birth Control In The World Is For Men

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Post by callmeed »

dminor wrote: post #67
silentscope wrote: post #33

I do see a market with this, but it's got a lot of problems you'd need to navigate. Nothing a smart team couldn't figure out. Most of the time, men trust women when they say they're on birth control. Women get pregnant--a big deal. It's less likely (but not unheard of) that a woman wants to get pregnant and then lies about birth control. Men, on the other hand, would love to not use a condom. And men don't get pregna…

For couples who are done having children, this is a fantastic alternative to a vasectomy.

How so? If I'm "done" I'd rather have a vasectomy than risk forgetting about this and getting my wife pregnant at 42.

Re: The Best Birth Control In The World Is For Men

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Post by eru »

MartinCron wrote: post #68
streptomycin wrote: post #56

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In theory, maybe. In practice, no. Condoms are way out of fashion these days among the young sexually active crowd.

That's a horrifying thought. I'm planning on doing "the talk" with my children starting with a latex condom and working outwards. "Sex is a beautiful thing shared between two people and a latex condom from a reliable brand"...

> ... and a latex condom from a reliable brand"...

Aren't they all required by law to be reliable?

Re: The Best Birth Control In The World Is For Men

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Post by randfish »

natasham25 wrote: post #54

I've asked my guy friends whether they would get this procedure, and none of them will. Guys expect women to mess with their bodies, but are not willing to make the sacrifice themselves when it comes down to it, even though this is more safe and harmless than pumping your body with hormones every day.

I'll publicly go on record as saying I'd do this (if it's as safe and well-tested as the article suggests). I think, like many other things, it simply takes some public examples, preferably high profile, to help instill trust in people.

Re: The Best Birth Control In The World Is For Men

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Post by ataggart »

roguecoder wrote: post #44
angersock wrote: post #15

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Because men clearly are not as invested in the possible rearing of a child. Clearly. (seriously: making a kid should be && not || )

This will also let us stop hearing "men's rights activists" whine about child support. Didn't want to pay child support? Should have gotten the shot!

Tell that to the guys who are provably not the biological father, but are still forced by the courts to pay child support.

Re: The Best Birth Control In The World Is For Men

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Post by jrockway »

jemfinch wrote: post #69
philwelch wrote: post #35

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As always, it depends on the woman; I know one who swears by them, though I've never had sex with her so I wouldn't know for sure.

You only believe what women say when you've had sex with them? What?

The OP mentioned a change in sensation for men. He's suggesting that he is not qualified to comment on that.

Re: The Best Birth Control In The World Is For Men

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Post by xibernetik »

salsakran wrote: post #70
kisielk wrote: post #60

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Not sure why some guys have so many reservations about this, it sounds like a simple and reversible procedure with a quick recovery. I'd get it if it were available in Canada.

Uhm, it involves cutting open your scrotum. The idea that people will casually do this is ... hilarious.

And current birth control methods for women include injections of artificial hormones, dilating their cervix and putting a piece of plastic or metal part their vagina and into their body, and surgery to open the stomach and clamp certain organs shut. Whether or not it's hilarious, those practices are accepted as normal.

Birth control that involves body modifications is anything but casual, but to draw the line of it being ridiculous at when it involves male genitalia is a bit narrow-minded.

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