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Re: Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager

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Post by eternityforest »

ChilledTonic wrote: post #298
eternityforest wrote: post #289

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I was on Bitwarden for a bit. I really really like the secure notes feature, it's great for storing secrets like keys that aren't used in a browser or android app. But Google is so much more convenient. I still wonder why there's no completely P2P password manager using SyncThing plus a layer of encryption. We have this near perfect tool for making multidevice apps but we don't use it for much!

I mean, you could use pass, which stores all your passwords in a gpg encrypted file. It works very well out of the box with syncthing, or anything else that can move around files, like git-annex. https://www.passwordstore.org/ KeePassX works fairly well with syncthing as well, if I remember. https://www.keepassx.org/

The Android app for pass seems to be 2yrs old, not the worst, not the best.

I've heard KeePassX can have sync conflicts if you edit on multiple devices with the wrong timing.

I think for a real conflict-free experience you'd need to put each password in its own file, or give each device a logfile to publish CRDT updates with cr-sqlite(Looking into adding that to a baserow style app).

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Post by sleepybrett »

nativeit wrote: post #277
sleepybrett wrote: post #162

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that or check back in a year when the founder will say, "... the realaties of the market..."

You could ask them, you’re replying to the founder right now, after all.

I know. I've watched this cycle repeat time and time again. 'We would never' (six to twelve months pass) 'Well never say never'.

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Post by johnchristopher »

belthesar wrote: post #232
johnchristopher wrote: post #166

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The flack bitwarden takes in almost every submission about how they are tainted because of VC investments is getting boring.

I can understand your position, but there's more than a few of us that have watched some of our favorite products pursue new verticals for the sake of making more money, losing focus on what made them great in the first place, and ultimately dying, forcing us to pivot to some replacement that is better not because its made some revolutionary improvement to the problem space, but because it's less distracted. All that…

That's a slippery slope argument though. I am happy for the people you describe that they found a support group in HN comments for the impending demise of bitwarden but it's still just noise and doesn't nurture interesting conversations. Like the recurring "this webapp requires javascript", "signal is centralized", etc. It's becoming memes.

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Post by mptest »

protonmail wrote: post #291
mptest wrote: post #220

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I've found ProtonPass to be useful. Depending on how you feel about the proton ecosystem. I don't know how much VC money they've taken though.

If you look at the total financial means Proton has spent to develop and grow, >98% came from the community, making VC funding less than 2%. In fact, the total amount of VC money is actually even less than the money we have given away in various donations (you can learn more about those here: https://proton.me/blog/2022-lifetime-fundraiser-results ).

Holy crap! Never been so excited at a corporate account reply! Love your products. Love your philosophy. Great to know about limited VC funding! Thanks for the info. Now I can add Non Vc Funded TM to my list of endorsements for your services.

Re: Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager

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Post by skjoldr »

wmal wrote: post #129
skjoldr wrote: post #108

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"Commercial.Core and SSO integration: Code for certain new modules that are designed and developed for use by larger organizations and enterprise environments is released under the Bitwarden License, a "source available" license." The rest of Bitwarden is free both as in beer and as in speech. Dunno why you think otherwise. Vaultwarden exists, and Bitwarden clients are compatible with it.

Thank you, and other people, for mentioning Vaultwarden. I’ll check that out. This is, however, a separate software package, coming from different people, so not related to my question. Bitwarden is not free as in speech, as it requires me to register with Bitwarden, Inc and get a license key to be able to self host. Also, then it uses some closed cloud services. As for the free as in beer - this is more nuanced, but…

> Bitwarden is not free as in speech, as it requires me to register with Bitwarden, Inc and get a license key to be able to self host.

That is not the right understanding of the term "free" because the code is completely open-source and you can remove the parts that have to do with registration and enterprise features yourself without breaking the license agreement. You would have to maintain such a fork on your own though. It would be easier if Bitwarden Inc. themselves would maintain a completely open-sourced version and an open core version with non-free parts and registration, but they are not obligated to do so.

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Post by Wolfenstein98k »

JAlexoid wrote: post #296
Wolfenstein98k wrote: post #188

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Then why raise an additional $100m?

To grow faster. To be able to fund new projects that could be of higher value to people willing to pay extra. You know, how you don't just save all of your life for a house - but get a mortgage and enjoy a house now, not in 50 years.

But if I had tonnes of cash, I wouldn't get a mortgage.
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