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Re: Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager

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Post by taneq »

bruh2 wrote: post #238
jrm4 wrote: post #236

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"Bitwarden also took VC investments. Which is fine." Nope. With that, you've quite literally convinced me to not just avoid it forever, but to also recommend others do the same. VC investments means "they're gonna want money back at some point," and the service they provide is too important to have that hanging in the air, especially given how badly MANY other VC backed things have screwed things up. You've effective…

Do you have any examples of startups that went to shit due to VC funding? I have a feeling you're completely right, and I want to recommend others to avoid it. I might need some examples to back this up though:)

Pebble. They had a great niche product that was growing organically and sustainably. VCs thought the smartwatch could be the next smartphone, and dumped a truckload of cash on them. Next minute they were burning all that cash pumping out too many new models.

Meanwhile everyone stopped wearing wristwatches except as a fashion statement. The original company would have survived this easily but the VCs wanted the next Apple or bust.

Re: Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager

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Post by 22289d »

oooyay wrote: post #105
louthy wrote: post #90

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> The new CEO concerns me. I didn't know who the founder was but I always had the impression it was a lone hacker. They passed the baton. Now it's some old Web 1.0 guy who was the CEO of eFax in the 90's. This sounds like ageism to me. I don't know if this guy is any good or not, but calling out someone as a 'concern' just because they were successful in the past isn't a good look. Is there anything more substantive…

I've never heard "web 1.0 guy" as a pejorative, on top of what you said. For the curious, Michael Crandell is the CEO and he founded Right Scale in 2007 which exited in 2018 with 250 employees. He was EVP at eFax in the early aughts, which would have been somewhere in his twenties. He's a Stanford and Harvard graduate as well as a self-taught programmer in assembly. Here's an interview with him: https://medium.com/au…

> I've never heard "web 1.0 guy" as a pejorative

Web 2.0 replaced Web 1.0, right? Is that because Web 1.0 was better or just as good? Or was that because Web 2.0 was an improvement? And we're a good decade or so beyond Web 2.0 now. Surely you're familiar with the term dinosaur in this context. Web 1.0 are the dinosaurs.

If you still think web 1.0 doesn't have any negative connotations there is nothing I can say to change your mind. But I strongly disagree.

Re: Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager

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Post by [deleted] »

kstrauser wrote: post #216
oooyay wrote: post #105

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I've never heard "web 1.0 guy" as a pejorative, on top of what you said. For the curious, Michael Crandell is the CEO and he founded Right Scale in 2007 which exited in 2018 with 250 employees. He was EVP at eFax in the early aughts, which would have been somewhere in his twenties. He's a Stanford and Harvard graduate as well as a self-taught programmer in assembly. Here's an interview with him: https://medium.com/au…

I’m with you on all that. Web 1.0… so he has a fundamental understanding of how the Internet works? And was successful before blockchain nonsense came around? Sounds like good qualifications to me.

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Re: Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager

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Post by marisnom »

jjice wrote: post #181

Huh, more negative than I expected. For some reason I had Bitwarden as an HN darling in my head. Not sure where I got that from. I pay for premium for $10 a year. Not sure what I actually take advantage of with that honestly but I just really like the product. That said, it's not based on a lot of competition searching. Am I missing out on some big benefits in other managers?

I've also used Bitwarden for a while now, and it works perfectly for me I have no real complaints about it. It just works and does what it needs.

Re: Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager

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Post by 22289d »

louthy wrote: post #90
22289d wrote: post #54

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The new CEO concerns me. I didn't know who the founder was but I always had the impression it was a lone hacker. They passed the baton. Now it's some old Web 1.0 guy who was the CEO of eFax in the 90's. That's not the type of service I thought I was using. I looked up their headquarters in Santa Barbara and it's a co-working space. That doesn't sound very secure. Though that could be their corp address and they're hi…

> The new CEO concerns me. I didn't know who the founder was but I always had the impression it was a lone hacker. They passed the baton. Now it's some old Web 1.0 guy who was the CEO of eFax in the 90's. This sounds like ageism to me. I don't know if this guy is any good or not, but calling out someone as a 'concern' just because they were successful in the past isn't a good look. Is there anything more substantive…

I like my software written by nerds, not business guys from the dotcom era.

You can try to poke holes in that with whatever isms you want, it's still true. And I'm not alone.

Re: Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager

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Post by nativeit »

StevePerkins wrote: post #191
jjice wrote: post #181

Huh, more negative than I expected. For some reason I had Bitwarden as an HN darling in my head. Not sure where I got that from. I pay for premium for $10 a year. Not sure what I actually take advantage of with that honestly but I just really like the product. That said, it's not based on a lot of competition searching. Am I missing out on some big benefits in other managers?

Really surprised by this as well. So many comments are of the generic nature, " is miles ahead" , without any specifics on what that's supposed to mean. My last few employers have used LastPass and 1Password, while I use Bitwarden for my personal stuff, and I prefer the latter by far. The browser plugin is more reliable about recognizing when I'm entering or updating a password, and offering to store or update it. Th…

I’m with you on this. I tried every popular option a few years ago and found all of them to be rather atrocious, but settled on self-hosting VW, and found its mobile integration (using BW clients/apps) to be as close to native as anything, and its 2FA (for TOTP anyway) is superb. Nothing else thus far allows me to launch a website or app and login with 2FA faster than Bitwarden. I operate under the assumption that everything has a weak spot, at least Vaultwarden isn’t hiding the source code and if BW’s VC backers dictate some kind of rule-breaking change to the service, it won’t affect my data and forks/OSS alternatives will be easily readied to interface with it.

Re: Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager

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Post by nativeit »

sleepybrett wrote: post #162
junon wrote: post #127

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Thanks, then this all seems to be much ado about nothing. Cheers!

that or check back in a year when the founder will say, "... the realaties of the market..."

You could ask them, you’re replying to the founder right now, after all.

Re: Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager

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Post by nativeit »

xxkylexx wrote: post #111
22289d wrote: post #54

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The new CEO concerns me. I didn't know who the founder was but I always had the impression it was a lone hacker. They passed the baton. Now it's some old Web 1.0 guy who was the CEO of eFax in the 90's. That's not the type of service I thought I was using. I looked up their headquarters in Santa Barbara and it's a co-working space. That doesn't sound very secure. Though that could be their corp address and they're hi…

The "new" CEO has been at the helm since 2019. Long before the mentioned funding in 2022. We don't really have a HQ since we are a 100% remote company. Source: I am the Bitwarden founder.

I have been self-hosting for a few years now with zero complaints. Keep doing what you’re doing, and thank you.

Re: Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager

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Post by nativeit »

22289d wrote: post #275
louthy wrote: post #90

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> The new CEO concerns me. I didn't know who the founder was but I always had the impression it was a lone hacker. They passed the baton. Now it's some old Web 1.0 guy who was the CEO of eFax in the 90's. This sounds like ageism to me. I don't know if this guy is any good or not, but calling out someone as a 'concern' just because they were successful in the past isn't a good look. Is there anything more substantive…

I like my software written by nerds, not business guys from the dotcom era. You can try to poke holes in that with whatever isms you want, it's still true. And I'm not alone.

It’s a good thing you’re practicing what you preach and not pigeon holing anyone then.

Re: Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager

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Post by zikduruqe »

xcdzvyn wrote: post #270
zikduruqe wrote: post #96

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If I'm looking in your ~/.password-store directory and see entries named Finanace/, Travel/, Streaming/, Work/... you have bigger problems.

Could I ask why?

That means I have access to your local machine if I can view your ~/.password-store directory. I might not be able to view or decrypt the contents of every entry, but I still have access to your machine.
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