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What's the point of stating that "it's made in Japan"? I just don't get it. Does it have improved IME or CJK support? It's not like Japan is famous for its quality software to be honest.
For me at least it helps to know that it's not somehow secretly connected to some American intelligency agency
Seeing some talk about "built in Japan": This is a huge psychological factor in the hearts and minds of Japanese people. AFAICT, pride is a main constituent. There is a strong desire for Japanese to have accomplishments to be proud of to the world, to stand out on a crowded world stage. Another is this phrase particularly signals to other Japanese: Hey, choose this software, because it was made by our kind (pride), a…
I think countries mostly fall into one of two baskets:
* those who normally favor their own country's products.
* those who almost universally loathe their own country's products.
I was born in one of the latter types of countries. Where I am from, the word "imported" was absolutely synonym with "better quality". It didn't even matter where it came from, as long as it was not local. This was due to 1970's and 80's protectionist/socialist policies which wanted to make the national industry protected from foreign competition - which it did, but had the side effect of making such industries completely non-competitive with the rest of the world.
Then I moved to a country in the more nationalist group: Australia. The "Australian Made"[1] logo is proudly used by anyone who produces even a tiny bit of their products in Australia (I think there's a minimal threshold for that to be allowed, but didn't really check it)! The most popular car there was the Holden Commodore for decades (recently, Holden closed down production in Australia - so now it's all Toyota), proudly Australian made - even if the mother company, GM, was not Aussie. After traveling around in a few countries, I came to the conclusion that most countries that actually have a competitive industry tend to be more like that. Japan is of course in that category, but so are most developed nations: USA, Canada, Sweden, Germany, Italy, even more recent "arrivals" to the upper league, like South Korea.
Poorer countries tend to be in a paradoxical position where their people will swear they love their nation and will be extremely irritated if any foreigner dares to criticize them, but in private they consider their own industry a joke, will go to great lengths to buy "imported" products, even if they're more expensive (given the high tariffs for imports), have almost zero trust in their compatriots (specially politicians and business people) and totally expect them to be dishonest without further evidence to the contrary, and so on... things that just lead to a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Anyway, I just wanted to say that this is not at all particular to Japanese people :).
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the connection is less direct, less direct connections imply increased safety.
Precisely the reason people obfuscate direct connections is so people like you believe this about their products.
Seeing some talk about "built in Japan": This is a huge psychological factor in the hearts and minds of Japanese people. AFAICT, pride is a main constituent. There is a strong desire for Japanese to have accomplishments to be proud of to the world, to stand out on a crowded world stage. Another is this phrase particularly signals to other Japanese: Hey, choose this software, because it was made by our kind (pride), a…
I've been trying out all the firefox forks that come out and end up back on master Firefox (on desktop, Mull wins on Android IMO) due to the inevitable limits of developer time on the project. The value proposition is never quite worth it for the downsides. A web browser is not a trivial project to build and upstream changes are unrelenting. Just like I've seen in Linux for 20+ years, we see different tribes basicall…
Why forks? -- There are a lot of decisions made by the upstream that are... let's put it mildly, "opinionated" (but really, just idiotic). But you cannot argue with majority or whoever leads the project. So, many times you don't do it as a way to kill time. You do it because none of what you have works. If I had time and enough knowledge of any of the existing browsers codebases, I'd definitely try to create my own v…
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I definitely have a preference for made in America, but that really only applies to physical products since there are strong associations with reputation and quality; the "country of origin" of software is far less well-defined in general, especially in the case of OSS.
It's sort of strange to me how many Americans seem to share the same sentiment when my experience has often been the total opposite. China has some of the best factories, supply chains, and collaboration in the world. And while yes, of course, loads of intentionally cheap, low-quality goods are churned out regularly, many Chinese companies also make really solid products, often even the best products until you reach…
For reference, this is not just the only player in town (for Firefox forks). There is the following: - librewolf (Desktop) [1] - Mull (Android) [2] - Iceraven (Android) [3] - Mercury (Desktop) [4] - Pulse Browser (Desktop) [5] - Waterfox (Desktop) [6] - Floorp (Desktop) [7] --> This submission - Pale Moon (Desktop) [8] - Mullvad Browser (Desktop) [9] - Tor browser (Desktop - Android) [10] This list is not inclusive.…
Note that out of these, the PaleMoon browser ( https://www.palemoon.org ) is the only real "hard" fork of Firefox. The others are all "soft" forks of Mozilla Firefox in that they all just customise some existing settings as defaults or customise the UI or integrate their own extensions of Firefox and rebrand it. The PaleMoon team however forked even Mozilla Gecko ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gecko_(software) ), th…
I've been trying out all the firefox forks that come out and end up back on master Firefox (on desktop, Mull wins on Android IMO) due to the inevitable limits of developer time on the project. The value proposition is never quite worth it for the downsides. A web browser is not a trivial project to build and upstream changes are unrelenting. Just like I've seen in Linux for 20+ years, we see different tribes basicall…
> Why are all these people building different sandcastles when they could be working together? Could they, though? What if upstream says ”thanks, but no thanks“ to your ideas? What if there are multiple, equally valid solutions to a problem, and you want to explore one that wasn‘t chosen? Progress isn‘t linear, and not everything can be compromised on. Just having more people work on a project, does not magically spe…
I agree with you, growing beyond a single small team is another game entirely
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I think they’re asking why it’s so prominent (more in the title of this submission than the website itself) as if it’s the main feature of the browser
Japanese people are proud of their country. In some nations, like France or Bulgaria it’s taboo. But in the US or Japan it’s fine to be proud of where a product is coming from.
There are, however, perceptions among the Japanese people that their own products are generally off higher quality.
Seeing some talk about "built in Japan": This is a huge psychological factor in the hearts and minds of Japanese people. AFAICT, pride is a main constituent. There is a strong desire for Japanese to have accomplishments to be proud of to the world, to stand out on a crowded world stage. Another is this phrase particularly signals to other Japanese: Hey, choose this software, because it was made by our kind (pride), a…
> This is a huge psychological factor in the hearts and minds of Japanese people. I think countries mostly fall into one of two baskets: * those who normally favor their own country's products. * those who almost universally loathe their own country's products. I was born in one of the latter types of countries. Where I am from, the word "imported" was absolutely synonym with "better quality". It didn't even matter w…
the isolation policy in the past didn't come from nothing.
everywhere else it generally also differs by industry more than in japan.