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Re: Floorp – A customisable Firefox fork from Japan

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Post by toxinu »

MikusR wrote: post #42
toxinu wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People buying and flexing with stuff that have "Designed in California" engraved on them and being offended with an Open Source software that just want to say is it developed in Japan. Stop over thinking and just appreciate people work. And meanwhile, Japan has been the biggest video games actor in the industry for the latest 50 years, so I guess there are some engineers over there.

By what metric? Top 3 games by units sold are american. By revenue they are in top 4 with games made in 80s and top spot is a Korean game.

I don't really care and thought about a specific metric.

If you have experience in the video game industry, then I think you get my point but I also enjoy arguing about metrics.

In this case the "actor" was referring as a role in the industry so more about an aggregation of metrics I guess.

Re: Floorp – A customisable Firefox fork from Japan

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Post by bluish29 »

developer93 wrote: post #43
yuppiepuppie wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple does this on every single one of its products, but not even from the nation its designed in, but the state!

Because they were accused of having uygar forced labour in their supply chains iirc

I doubt that the accusations were about forcing Uyghurs labor in California to do the dirty design and R&D work. It was always about manufacturing and assembly, which definitely does not happen in California.

Re: Floorp – A customisable Firefox fork from Japan

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Post by eloisant »

Barrin92 wrote: post #30
rvnx wrote: post #23

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Japanese people are proud of their country. In some nations, like France or Bulgaria it’s taboo. But in the US or Japan it’s fine to be proud of where a product is coming from.

believe me the French are very, very proud of their country, that doesn't really mean you need to buy into rather cringy economic 'patriotism'. Especially when it makes zero sense as in the case of software. It's not like this browser came out of a 500 year old artisanal Japanese crafting shop, where the browser recipes where handed down the family tree With these kinds of things it's basically, I have no way to diff…

Not in software.

Most successful French startups move their HQ to US as soon as they can and claim they're a US company.

"Made in France" software is a shame and if you're targetting the global market (not just the French domestic market) no founder wants to advertise that.

Which is a shame because we have a lot of talented engineers in France, it's just that the biggest French software companies are frauds.

Re: Floorp – A customisable Firefox fork from Japan

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Post by throwaway290 »

qalmakka wrote: post #2

What's the point of stating that "it's made in Japan"? I just don't get it. Does it have improved IME or CJK support? It's not like Japan is famous for its quality software to be honest.

It means many things, including "not made in PRC" (as much of a thing in world of software as world of appliances and electronics, similar implications)

Re: Floorp – A customisable Firefox fork from Japan

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Post by alwyn »

Xeamek wrote: post #32
pil0u wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some people care about items not travelling twice the globe before landing home. Other people care about work conditions for the produced items they buy, namely not manufactured by children, for which country origin could be an indicator.

>Some people care about items not travelling twice the globe before landing home Which is pretty dumb thing to care about, since these journeys have minimal carbon footprint, compared to something like local delivery

Can you elaborate on the minimal carbon footprint in this context?

Re: Floorp – A customisable Firefox fork from Japan

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Post by GuB-42 »

qalmakka wrote: post #2

What's the point of stating that "it's made in Japan"? I just don't get it. Does it have improved IME or CJK support? It's not like Japan is famous for its quality software to be honest.

Things I associate with software from Japan:

- Dense interfaces, flashy colors, the opposite of Apple-style minimalism

- Proprietary software

- Lots of customization when its comes to appearance / theming

- Passionate communities

- Traditionalism, resistance to change

- Function over security

It does not all apply to Floorp, but that's what I think when I think of "made in Japan" software.

For example, Floorp is open source, which I think is less common in Japan than in the west, and hopefully, it is secure. But the customization and "dual sidebar" (i.e. more stuff on screen) features are typically Japanese.

Re: Floorp – A customisable Firefox fork from Japan

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Post by replete »

I've been trying out all the firefox forks that come out and end up back on master Firefox (on desktop, Mull wins on Android IMO) due to the inevitable limits of developer time on the project. The value proposition is never quite worth it for the downsides. A web browser is not a trivial project to build and upstream changes are unrelenting.

Just like I've seen in Linux for 20+ years, we see different tribes basically working on the same thing in slightly different ways, and I find my self thinking over and over "Why are all these people building different sandcastles when they could be working together?". Particularly with the Firefox forks where projects seem to struggle with the release cadence.

It's a rhetorical question though - effective organization appears hard to scale especially when there is no money involved. How many cash rich companies have you worked at that have lost the plot?

I would really like to see Firefox win again in the browser battles. I personally believe that its the UX where differentiation from the chromiums is opportune with many interesting and desirable new UI paradigms emerging in some the recent third-party browser upstarts.

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