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Re: OnlyOffice: Free open source office suite with business productivity tools

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Post by dna_polymerase »

deaddodo wrote: post #101
malermeister wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Invasions_by_the_Unit... It's an entire category.

When was the last time the US attacked a nation to annex them into their sovereignty? Not in some abstract or vague manner, directly annexing them. Not defending any of the US' wars, but it's a little disingenuous to compare them to the Ukrainian conflict.

> Not in some abstract or vague manner, directly annexing them.

Do you mean like not calling it an intervention? It's been sometime, but I don't think the Ukrainians care too much about Russia calling it a “special operation”…

Re: OnlyOffice: Free open source office suite with business productivity tools

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Post by DrScientist »

squarefoot wrote: post #115
ihypopocrite wrote: post #81

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Not more than or less than using American or Israeli products.

Motivation plays a role here. I'm not defending in any means what the US, Israel and many other countries have done or are doing to others, but today, as we are writing, Russia is probably more motivated to harm western businesses by hitting common people than the US or Israel or any other country, except maybe China to a much lesser extent.

In terms of motivation - I think it's more likely that Russia is more motivated to be independent of American controlled software.

Open source == a level of independence from sanctions and foreign government spying.

Re: OnlyOffice: Free open source office suite with business productivity tools

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Post by OfSanguineFire »

d1sxeyes wrote: post #148
siva7 wrote: post #114

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It makes more sense if you view america as a police officer. An officer would pull sometimes his weapon to prevent bad things from happening but the officer would never take the suspect as his personal slave like russia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LasrD6SZkZk In all seriousness, America does not pull their weapon to prevent bad things from happening (or at least, not primarily). The US primarily works through Nato and the UN to intervene in their 'world police' role, but they are happy to start other conflicts without the support of Nato and the UN (see Afghanistan, Iraq, Vietnam, ~~Korea~~). If the US were really the 'world pol…

> without the support of the UN... Korea

The US involvement in the Korean War was organized under the nascent UN.[0] "During the course of the war, 22 nations contributed military or medical personnel to UN Command. Although the United States led the UNC and provided the bulk of its troops and funding, all participants formally fought under the auspices of the UN, with the operation classified as a 'UN-led police action'."

[0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Command

Re: OnlyOffice: Free open source office suite with business productivity tools

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Post by nicoburns »

rmbyrro wrote: post #147
dingi wrote: post #132

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Sure, they are OSS but how do you know what goes into their binaries? Being open source does not imply that the binaries are not backdoored.

Wouldn't it be relatively trivial for someone to compile, compare checksums and call them out? It's more likely they'd introduce a security flaw that is hard to detect in the OSS code. If someone finds, they'd just claim it was a security incident which is now fixed (and then they'd move to another masked flaw).

> Wouldn't it be relatively trivial for someone to compile, compare checksums and call them out?

Generally not. Most software does not have reproducible builds, so the checksums would be unlikely to match.

Re: OnlyOffice: Free open source office suite with business productivity tools

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Post by 0x073 »

concordDance wrote: post #139
0x073 wrote: post #107

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But every russian supports the war direct or indirect.

"If you're not with me you're against me"?

People/companies pay tax, so every products that get bought from russian companies is part of the war.

Re: OnlyOffice: Free open source office suite with business productivity tools

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Post by dr_faustus »

2Gkashmiri wrote: post #36
_atreeonmyhouse wrote: post #14

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There is some confusion here. The linked GitHub repo clearly says Apache License, but their commercial website does say AGPL. They're not even remotely similar. The AGPL is regarded as so toxic that nearly all companies where office suites matter, place it on a "do not use" list. It's a good way to artificially limit your potential customers. It doesn't matter that they have a page saying "sure go ahead and use it in…

Totally bollocks. This is pure fud. Nothing else. AGPL DOES NOT restrict ability to be used internally. Agpl does NOT restrict selling software as it is. Agpl does not restrict using agpl software with proprietary software. Only thing that agpl prevent is, IF YOU MODIFY AGPL SOFTWARE, YOU HAVE TO GIVE SOURCE CODE TO USERS. Your modifications. Thats it. AGPL DOES NOT MANDATE upstreaming modifications. You can do it or…

Be is it may, there are companies like iText (Java PDF library) which are actively harassing companies which use their software, even if the use is perfectly legal (e.g. internal server software). So it's not only Google spreading FUD but companies which try to use AGPL as a trojan horse and then strong-arm users into commercial licenses.

The problem with AGPL is, that the definitions are very open to interpretation. What is a network, how many systems do have to be between to the end user and the software component to still count as "interacting over a network", etc.

So I would also not recommend to use AGPL in your company...

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