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Re: OnlyOffice: Free open source office suite with business productivity tools

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Motivation plays a role here. I'm not defending in any means what the US, Israel and many other countries have done or are doing to others, but today, as we are writing, Russia is probably more motivated to harm western businesses by hitting common people than the US or Israel or any other country, except maybe China to a much lesser extent.

How are they hurting western businesses by releasing OSS? We already have LibreOffice. What is the point of your comment?

Sure, they are OSS but how do you know what goes into their binaries? Being open source does not imply that the binaries are not backdoored.

Re: OnlyOffice: Free open source office suite with business productivity tools

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Invasions_by_the_Unit... It's an entire category.

When was the last time the US attacked a nation to annex them into their sovereignty? Not in some abstract or vague manner, directly annexing them. Not defending any of the US' wars, but it's a little disingenuous to compare them to the Ukrainian conflict.

Hawaii probably?

But is the annexing part the part that really matters or is it the countless dead and wounded civilians?

Re: OnlyOffice: Free open source office suite with business productivity tools

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They try hard to whitewash their affiliations to russia for potential customers while still not condemning the war. Jetbrains at least had the courage to do so even though state-owned institutions in germany are checking to cut their ties even with them. I would strictly advise against using their (OnlyOffice) products if you're in a country (eu, america) that participates in the sanctions against russia.

Jetbrains is Czech, not Russian.

Re: OnlyOffice: Free open source office suite with business productivity tools

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When was the last time the US attacked a nation to annex them into their sovereignty? Not in some abstract or vague manner, directly annexing them. Not defending any of the US' wars, but it's a little disingenuous to compare them to the Ukrainian conflict.

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As a sibling comment points out, the US has also done so, so what might matter here are the relative rates. And good luck finding those out through the chaos, propaganda and fog of war...

We'll probably only have half decent numbers a decade from now, if that.

Re: OnlyOffice: Free open source office suite with business productivity tools

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Whataboutism at its finest people! They're all horrible. We know that. But this is about one particular country in context.

Its to make people consider why they're doing something and whether it's actually for the reasons they think by comparing to another situation where the same reasons hold but they didn't do the thing.

It can be a useful tool for figuring out your own feelings.

Re: OnlyOffice: Free open source office suite with business productivity tools

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Not every russian works in the Kremlin.

No, but 4 out of 5 Russians dig[1] their dictator[2]. [1] https://www.statista.com/statistics/896181/putin-approval-ra... [2] https://pace.coe.int/en/news/9191/pace-committee-examines-th...

Apart from the questionable nature of polling in a totalitarian dictatorship there's also the question of propaganda and lies making people support things they shouldn't.

The Iraq War being the go to example of the West.

Re: OnlyOffice: Free open source office suite with business productivity tools

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Official statistics in Russia don't mean anything anymore unfortunately

Almost all the Russians I know personally support the war. They aren’t some silly ‘90 years olds with Alzheimer’s’ crowd, most of them are software engineers. Some of them know I live in Ukraine, yet they tell me they will ‘liberate me soon.’ From my own free will, I suppose.

The ones I know all oppose the war. I suspect yours may be more representative though...

Re: OnlyOffice: Free open source office suite with business productivity tools

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You sound like a C compiler. "This is technically undefined behavior so whatever" is not a useful guiding principle for user interfaces.

A normal user interface would guide you away from using CSV in the first place. In almost all situations where one could use CSV, a better, more structured, more standards-compliant, more optimized file format (like a SQLite database) would be a better choice.

In situations where people are opening a CSV file in an office-suite spreadsheet app, they probably didn't generate the data themselves. Lecturing them about how their spreadsheet should have been a database isn't likely to help, and describing SQLite's file format, which is well-documented but not a standard, as "more standards-compliant" than a file format with an actual RFC is bordering on ridiculous.
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