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Teens inundated with phone prompts day and night, research finds

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Re: Teens inundated with phone prompts day and night, research finds

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Post by flashback2199 »

standardUser wrote: post #131
almatabata wrote: post #123

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They probably did all of this to increase some KPI. The more fine grained authorization system problem resulted in less interactions. A lot of applications have too many incentives to keep you engaged as long as possible. I think apple has a nice setting where you can disable all notifications after a certain time slot in the evening. But this only works in the evenings, during the day they can still spam all day lon…

A notification management system sounds like something that needs to exist, but how would it work if companies don't adhere to standards? I don't see any way out of this that doesn't first involve legislation.

Machine learning! Android could filter notifications, easy.

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Post by Symbiote »

wholinator2 wrote: post #108
jeffbee wrote: post #28

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> it's a communication app so you want the notifications on That doesn't follow, IMO. I have tons of communication platforms that aren't allowed to notify.

Well for college kids and young people you need to know if an event is being created or you're being invited somewhere. I don't want to check my phone every 30 minute throughout the day and nobody around me is rigid enough to plan everything days in advance. Sometimes you wanna go on an impromptu road trip or to a party or maybe there's a test you didn't know about and the study group is organizing a session. Maybe y…

It may surprise you, but people with kids or a mortgage also go to parties and organise events.

I have Slack and MS Outlook on my phone for work, which are both communication apps, but notifications are muted.

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Post by Obscurity4340 »

thenerdhead wrote: post #34

Jonathan Haidt has done a great job advocating this problem and is writing a book coming out this next year called "The Anxious Generation": https://jonathanhaidt.substack.com/p/phone-free-schools https://jonathanhaidt.substack.com/p/sapien-smartphone-repor... https://jonathanhaidt.substack.com/p/social-media-mental-ill... This isn't something that can be solved with "better tech". It is something that is solved with…

That's seriously what FocusMode is good for on iOS/iPhone and Mac. Get them setup and choose the limited stuff you want and need to hear from. Less is more, do what the President does.

It goes a long way towards relieving the anxiety of feeling there's something important but not remembering the thing itself or its temporal context.

Re: Teens inundated with phone prompts day and night, research finds

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Post by foogazi »

standardUser wrote: post #6

I think it's vital to strictly manage what notifications we allow our phones to give us. Unfortunately, I've noticed a trend where apps are becoming less cooperative. Many apps will have a single all-or-nothing notification setting. Others have dozens of vague, poorly-labelled categories. And all of this is hidden several clicks deep in configuration settings. The result is that we can't be sure which notifications t…

Like Uber notifications- you don’t want to miss any alerts for your trip, but then they abuse your trust and send you app updates, discounts or upselling

Re: Teens inundated with phone prompts day and night, research finds

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Post by xnx »

soultrees wrote: post #4

I run my phone on DND all day, everyday and block notifications from almost all apps. The amount of garbage we have vying for our attention on an hourly basis is overwhelming sometimes. The worst is the apps where you do want notifications on, like your food delivery apps so you know when your food is at the door, but those companies take that as an invite to send you daily marketing notifications and it all feels li…

Is there a good utility that can act as an inbox for all Android alerts? Something that I could apply my own source and keyword filters to.

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Post by [deleted] »

alexanderchr wrote: post #79
soultrees wrote: post #4

I run my phone on DND all day, everyday and block notifications from almost all apps. The amount of garbage we have vying for our attention on an hourly basis is overwhelming sometimes. The worst is the apps where you do want notifications on, like your food delivery apps so you know when your food is at the door, but those companies take that as an invite to send you daily marketing notifications and it all feels li…

It is a breach of trust. I give apps access to my immediate attention so they can notify me of things that need my attention. Not for telling me about their new features or some crappy partner deal. For this reason I have a one strike policy for apps. One marketing notification and permissions are revoked. Missing out on surprisingly little although it has made me stop using some services entirely.

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Re: Teens inundated with phone prompts day and night, research finds

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Post by footlose_3815 »

Phones back in the later 2000s were purposeful devices. Email spam was a problem.

Now, notifications have replaced emails, and they are right in your face. Kids have not been educated on how to stop these things, and the average person seems to just let all the notifications and ads in.

The people pushing to make these notifications easier to push to people are to blame. Not the teens.

Re: Teens inundated with phone prompts day and night, research finds

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Post by Symbiote »

Double_a_92 wrote: post #112
Freak_NL wrote: post #77

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I see the 'food delivery app' come up a few times in this thread. Do you really need an app to use such services in some countries? Whenever I want to order a meal for delivery I just go to the restaurant's website, or sometimes look at the list of available restaurants in Thuisbezorgd.nl (part of the company which owns Grubhub etc.) and then visit the restaurant website and order there. If there's something that nee…

It's a courtesy for the delivery person, so they don't have to ring and wait for you to get to the door. Instead you get a notification when they are getting close to your house (via GPS tracking).

It's a discoutesy to the customer to spam them with notifications after the order is complete.

Re: Teens inundated with phone prompts day and night, research finds

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Post by mavhc »

aidos wrote: post #97
jethro_tell wrote: post #54

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Yeah, dealing with schools doesn't fill me with hope about our kids future. Here's a email with a PDF containing important dates and updates about the cursive program. Lol, great.

It’s even worse than that - every class has a parent led WhatsApp group set up where people then regurgitate the same info into the chat. I suggested maybe a calendar instead but got the standard “it’s all too hard” responses.

"We should have an app for our school, it's only $x00"

Me: What does it do?

Calendar and notifications about new posts

Me: The website already does that, there's a button to click to subscribe to the calendar, another to subscribe to notifications, and you can "install" the website if you want, all with open standards

Surprising, I actually won the argument and they didn't waste their money.

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