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Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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With modern wide angle lenses, it doesn't even need to be pointed directly at you to get you completely in the frame.

I don't know. Its weird. Kind of like how people have the "someone's staring at you" sense. > The biological phenomenon is known as “gaze detection” or “gaze perception.” Neurological studies have found that the brain cells that initiate this response are very precise. If someone turns their gaze off of you by turning just a few degrees to their left or right, that eerie feeling quickly fades. I 100% beleive we also…

Also, gaze detection extends beyond humans [1]. Citation mentions dogs, birds, and reptiles having some degree of it. In general, attention detection via gaze or body language would be an evolutionary advantage for any prey animal, and even a predator that is low in the overall food chain. Anecdotally, I’ve seen similar behavior in spiders, though the literature [2] tells me it’s not specifically gaze that a spider is detecting. I have hunted (to trap) spiders around my house who seem to change behavior (eg play dead) based on my attention, leading me to think that they know they are being hunted on some level well below cognition. Which, coming full circle, lines up with the literature on how crazy accurate human gaze detection is, seems like a very old, low-level function.

[1] https://doi.org/10.3758/s13420-015-0204-z

[2] https://www.physoc.org/magazine-articles/some-recent-advance...

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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You can't. They were only available on the original Ray-Bans before they sold out to Luxottica.

Aren't these what you mean? https://www.ray-ban.com/eu/sunglasses/RB2140%20UNISEX%20orig...

Thanks! I wasn't aware of that model; they must be new. Looks like they were introduced back in March of this year. Good to see the barrel hinges. But a couple of questions:

Are the lenses glass? (It says they're G-15, which is supposed to be mineral glass, but I don't know if RB has changed the definition somewhere along the line and replaced them with plastic).

Are these only available in EU, or in the US as well?

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

#924

Can dang do something about the corporate spam that keeps popping up on HN? I don't think meta, or Apple, or the rest of these companies need help advertising products.

The test for a good HN post isn't whether something is corporate, it's whether it gratifies intellectual curiosity. I of course agree with you that most corporate PR and advertising doesn't remotely clear that bar, but occasionally it does and such posts are fine on HN.

This is one of those cases where it's really helpful to know specifically what we're optimizing for and what we don't need to worry about: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor....

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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We need to invent something that does the opposite now where individuals could wear something that prevents them from showing up in someone else’s content without explicit digital consent (some sort of personal scrambler). I don’t think the LED feature listed on this product page will often be honored by most people who will use these shades

> some sort of personal scrambler We're nearly at the "Foundation" levels of surveillance tech, but with no countermeasures in sight to oppose that. Even resisting web browser fingerprinting is difficult.

We can jam and destroy a drone with RF .. it should also work on less protected gear like smart glasses.

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Is there any source that can back this up? I can't imagine my local police paying to have live locations at all times.

You can't imagine police departments that buy stingray devices and spy illegally with them to also pay for surveillance data? Anyway for real time tracking, police stations can likely get the feds involved which get that info from your telco, who are best buddies with the federal government.

Yeah... but I am not american, but from a tiny european country. Police makes some requests for data after the fact every year, but as far as I know there are no deals between police and giant american corporations. I'm probably naive.

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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post #759

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Omnipresent video input is going to be essential for Artificial Self-Instantiation AGIs early next year. Your personal assistant can’t help you if you need to tell it what you’re doing all the time!

> Your personal assistant can’t help you if you need to tell it what you’re doing all the time! I assume "help" in this case will mean shoving endless ads your face and feeding manipulative lies to you on behalf of anyone willing to pay for it.

I believe in the power of open source and self-hosting, in this case.

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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post #759

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Omnipresent video input is going to be essential for Artificial Self-Instantiation AGIs early next year. Your personal assistant can’t help you if you need to tell it what you’re doing all the time!

Why do you say early next year? Agents barely work as of now. OpenAI’s plugins that ~do~ things like browse are still quite slow.

Partially openai’s “chatgpt5 will be done by December and achieve AGI”, partially a wish to stir a discussion here with hopeful language, and partially my burndown chart for my own implementation :)

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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You have the freedom to be outside and also record everything you perceive. You can't deny others that freedom and expect to attain it yourself, too. That you don't exercise that right is immaterial and has no bearing on whether I should be able to freely exercise that right as well.

But you are not a corporation?

Corporations are composed of individual human beings who are also exercising their universal rights in the course of involvement in that corporate entity .. will you start making a special class of humans that has those rights and can exercise them, and a class that can't based on their membership in a social group?

Then: Congratulations, you've become the very repressive thing you were resisting in the first place.

Yes, this is the price of freedom: in public, where you can express yourself, and exercise your universally granted rights to free expression (and thus recording) or not - without the expectation of being impinged upon by your peers - so too can others express themselves, and exercise their same universal rights.

Its a two way street and it belongs to the public.

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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post #759

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Omnipresent video input is going to be essential for Artificial Self-Instantiation AGIs early next year. Your personal assistant can’t help you if you need to tell it what you’re doing all the time!

Sounds interesting, any reading material you could point to about this?

Hmmm it’s a very hard thing to sum up in one piece, not sure I have a good author… I highly recommend skimming Marvin Minsky’s “The Frame Problem” (TL;DR personal assistants will only be helpful once they have intuition), and Picardy writings on Affective computing (TL;DR computers need to simulate our mental states in order to help us effectively). This is a good reminder to look for more lit though!

Philosophy wise, I’m frustratingly forgetting the two people who write about how one’s consciousness can be said to include things like personal journals, record books, calendars, etc. The idea is that you’re offloading part of your mind into artificial forms, in a very meaningful and real way. Will update if I remember their names soon! In the meantime, this is a great skim on the more general topic IMO: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/identity-personal/

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