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Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Post by rollcat »

washywashy wrote: post #820

We need to invent something that does the opposite now where individuals could wear something that prevents them from showing up in someone else’s content without explicit digital consent (some sort of personal scrambler). I don’t think the LED feature listed on this product page will often be honored by most people who will use these shades

> some sort of personal scrambler

We're nearly at the "Foundation" levels of surveillance tech, but with no countermeasures in sight to oppose that. Even resisting web browser fingerprinting is difficult.

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Post by barrysteve »

Smart glasses are obviously a massive security threat for industrial espionage. You can ask people to keep their phones with security. Getting people to switch to contacts out of the blue, is much more difficult.

James Bond's job is trivial with these. Elon Musk would lose his legs, if his nation-state competitors (whom probably build these glasses) walked into SpaceX and copy pasted the billion dollar plans to his rockets.

American tech is the leakiest abstraction.

If a President's daughter is caught doing something diplomatically controversial with these (or caught because of these)... they won't last long!

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Post by barrysteve »

rollcat wrote: post #831
washywashy wrote: post #820

We need to invent something that does the opposite now where individuals could wear something that prevents them from showing up in someone else’s content without explicit digital consent (some sort of personal scrambler). I don’t think the LED feature listed on this product page will often be honored by most people who will use these shades

> some sort of personal scrambler We're nearly at the "Foundation" levels of surveillance tech, but with no countermeasures in sight to oppose that. Even resisting web browser fingerprinting is difficult.

Nobody with an effective countermeasure is going to share it, or even let you know it exists.

The days of open communication about privacy (lol) are long gone!

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Post by nidnogg »

I much preferred Google Glass's futuristic but minimal look that could fit into a bunch of different models.

Personally I've never liked Wayfarers/Headliners (they also fit atrociously), so it's disappointing to see them take center stage here. At least the pricing is ok I guess? Fingers crossed for future models.

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Post by world2vec »

washywashy wrote: post #820

We need to invent something that does the opposite now where individuals could wear something that prevents them from showing up in someone else’s content without explicit digital consent (some sort of personal scrambler). I don’t think the LED feature listed on this product page will often be honored by most people who will use these shades

In the sci-fi novel "The Mountain in the Sea" (highly recommended btw) there is a piece of tech called "abglanz" which is an identity shield mask that flickers in iridescent blurry patterns to protect a person's privacy from camera surveillance.

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Post by washywashy »

barrysteve wrote: post #833
rollcat wrote: post #831

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> some sort of personal scrambler We're nearly at the "Foundation" levels of surveillance tech, but with no countermeasures in sight to oppose that. Even resisting web browser fingerprinting is difficult.

Nobody with an effective countermeasure is going to share it, or even let you know it exists. The days of open communication about privacy (lol) are long gone!

It’s not so much having a countermeasure but having countermeasures be built in to the system. Similar to a concept called gevulot in the book Quantum Thief.

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Post by rollcat »

barrysteve wrote: post #833
rollcat wrote: post #831

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> some sort of personal scrambler We're nearly at the "Foundation" levels of surveillance tech, but with no countermeasures in sight to oppose that. Even resisting web browser fingerprinting is difficult.

Nobody with an effective countermeasure is going to share it, or even let you know it exists. The days of open communication about privacy (lol) are long gone!

There are strong incentives for secrecy (military applications), hence encryption which provides solid foundations for private communication in civilian tech. I wonder if counter-surveillance tech could take the same route (e.g. ordinary soldiers can no longer afford to not carry a smartphone -> strong incentive to protect them from tracking; maybe I'm extrapolating too far).

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Post by wombat-man »

wyclif wrote: post #577
api_or_ipa wrote: post #70

Pricing is interesting. $299 for the Wayfarer model when the base Wayfarer goes for $171 on the Rayban website. If (and this is a big if) you assume Luxottica takes the same cut on both models, then Meta is selling a camera, headphones, etc, conveniently packaged into a very small form-factor for $128. If I were in the market for a new pair of sunglasses, it isn't hard to seem me splurging another $128 for something…

The base, regular Wayfarers were cannibalized and cheapened out by Luxottica a long time ago. I'm fortunate enough to have a vintage pair from the mid-1980's that still look brand new. They have higher quality zyl frames, polarized glass Bausch & Lomb lenses, and, crucially, five barrel bolted hinges. They're built like a tank. The new ones are so cheap I won't even wear them. Cheap plastic, plastic lenses, spring hi…

No way, I have a couple real pairs and they are solid. One I've had for like 13 years

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Post by dblangford »

world2vec wrote: post #835
washywashy wrote: post #820

We need to invent something that does the opposite now where individuals could wear something that prevents them from showing up in someone else’s content without explicit digital consent (some sort of personal scrambler). I don’t think the LED feature listed on this product page will often be honored by most people who will use these shades

In the sci-fi novel "The Mountain in the Sea" (highly recommended btw) there is a piece of tech called "abglanz" which is an identity shield mask that flickers in iridescent blurry patterns to protect a person's privacy from camera surveillance.

A similar device is central in Philip K Dick's "A Scanner Darkly" too.
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