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WiFi without internet on a Southwest flight

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Re: WiFi without internet on a Southwest flight

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On redeye international flights with exorbitant WiFi fees I'll admit to scanning for MAC addresses, get the top talkers, then come back later when ones been idle for like 15 minutes, presuming the person is asleep and change my mac to take the address and get online.

I just did it for fun, ok fine.

Re: WiFi without internet on a Southwest flight

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If you travel lite with clothes in a book bag(wash clothes if extended stay)… I don't see why anyone would fly United, Southwest, American Airlines, etc VS.the budget Airlines like Spirit. Maybe if you have points with those airlines… Otherwise, save hundreds of dollars using budget airlines which the planes are newer in my experience, and never had a bad experience versus my recent bad experiences with Delta and the…

Sure for me I fly out of a major hub (Baltimore Washington International) and Spirit flies pretty much to every US city from there.

One thing bad about spirit is their extremely horrible refund policy .. their seats are a bit smaller but not by much.

Thus far in my ten recent experiences flying Spirit with clothes & travel necessities in my book bag has saved me lots of money and my flight experiences have been the same to even better compared to Dekta, United, Alaska or Southwest. Thus the first place I now go to book a flight is spirit due to my experiences and flying out of a major hub.

I hope JetBlue doesn't get the chance to buy them out ... Spirit allows a lot of ppl who couldnt afford to fly enjoy a benefit all should be able too and for me i like saving money!

Re: WiFi without internet on a Southwest flight

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Nice trick with the watch to download periodic: watch -n 30 "curl https://getconnected.southwestwifi.com/current.json | jq -c >> flight-logs" I often use crontab, but this looks easier for testing. Thanks.

Yeah, if this were something that I wanted to leave running for more than the duration of a flight, I'd reach for cron, but a bash one-liner was perfect for this use-case!

Re: WiFi without internet on a Southwest flight

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Elevation is relative to sea level, not the ground.

This only holds true if you’re flying at or above the transition altitude. The transition altitude depends on where you’re flying: for example, in the USA and Canada it’s 18_000 feet MSL.

It's still sea-level. The transition altitude just changes the altimeter setting from one that matches the current air pressure to a standard pressure setting.

Re: WiFi without internet on a Southwest flight

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I used to do the same thing at hotels. Still often works. nmap -sn 192.168.0.1-255 To find everyone on the network, then start spoofing each of their MACs until you find one that works

I should probably know the answer, but what happens when two devices have the same MAC address?

Only one way to find out.

Re: WiFi without internet on a Southwest flight

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> There's this iOS app called Flightly I guess it's Flighty ( https://apps.apple.com/us/app/flighty-live-flight-tracker/id... ) I love that people are into this. In the days before iPhones, I had "Microsoft Streets and Trips" + a USB GPS unit + Laptop. It was fun having it on a flight and seeing movement data in realtime. It was less fun answering questions from people who thought looking at the GPS data was somehow…

Ha! I've used a high-end GPS to see my location and other fun facts in flight. I learned to keep it in my pocket as despite my attempts to explain it was only a receiver, I was told by the flight attendant to "PUT IT AWAY." Not being one to push back as to be removed for that flight, I did just that. Streets and Trips was fun on a laptop for long car drives as you could live reroute in the car much like any old app c…

FAs can be really strange about that kind of stuff, not just out of ignorance.

My kid liked to suction cup his GoPro to the window to take a time lapse movie of the flight and one FA told him he had to take it off the window because he was, and I quote: "modifying the structure of the aircraft and that's not FAA-approved".

Re: WiFi without internet on a Southwest flight

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If it's the panasonic inflight system, it receives flight data from the FMS. If the system does not receive flight data from the FMS then it will not be up to date. Your browser could also be retrieving old cached content. Basically there is nothing about this system to assure you, it's entirely a secondary data-delayed system that is not critical to flight operations and as such can be INOP at anytime and no one wil…

I honestly miss having to debug the racks at pana. But there were so many "what" level bugs with the systems. I remember DRM breaking multiple times for the IFE because they assigned the same IP to multiple devices.

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Re: WiFi without internet on a Southwest flight

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post #45

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If it's the panasonic inflight system, it receives flight data from the FMS. If the system does not receive flight data from the FMS then it will not be up to date. Your browser could also be retrieving old cached content. Basically there is nothing about this system to assure you, it's entirely a secondary data-delayed system that is not critical to flight operations and as such can be INOP at anytime and no one wil…

I honestly miss having to debug the racks at pana. But there were so many "what" level bugs with the systems. I remember DRM breaking multiple times for the IFE because they assigned the same IP to multiple devices.

Based on the current top comment those IPs may not have been assigned.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37693293

Re: WiFi without internet on a Southwest flight

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I used to do the same thing at hotels. Still often works. nmap -sn 192.168.0.1-255 To find everyone on the network, then start spoofing each of their MACs until you find one that works

Does that work if both of you are trying to send/receive packets at the same time?

Yeah, the client OS will reject the "bad" packets destined for the other device as unknown.

Re: WiFi without internet on a Southwest flight

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Tons of apps do that. It’s a built-in, supported use-case! It’s also the trivial, obvious approach to anyone who asks the question “how can I push data to the application when it’s not running.”

Give me one example, then. Of an app which uses a notification as an actual app data source and not just as a notification which opens the app. And which also updates the primary app view to reflect this new information. No other app has updated its app state based on the content of notifications. Slack/Discord/Teams et al (the ones that aren't allowed on free messaging plans) will show you previously cached messages…

Podcast players like Overcast use push notifications to learn about new episodes of podcasts that should be downloaded in the background. Presumably text-based RSS readers do the same.
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