Earlier quoted context omitted.
Maybe the plane is staying level but the ground is variable terrain.
Elevation is relative to sea level, not the ground.
WiFi without internet on a Southwest flight
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#222Earlier quoted context omitted.
Interesting how they chose to make more general `vehicleId` instead of `planeId` or `tailNumber` or something. I wonder if Delta's fleet includes other things that have matching APIs to this one. I also wonder how much of their internal system structure one could learn from the `flightId` if they knew about other systems. It doesn't look like much beyond a composite key of otherwise knowable data, but still interesti…
I doubt Delta made this. It’s an official the shelf product that can do ships, trains, planes, etc.
Re: WiFi without internet on a Southwest flight
#223When my son was younger - maybe 9 or 10 or so, we were on a plane and he was using his phone and I looked over his shoulder and realized he was on the internet... but I hadn't paid for an internet plan. I said, "son, how are you using the internet?" He said, "oh, a kid at school showed me - if you go here" (he opened up the wifi settings where the DHCP assigned IP address is) "and start changing the numbers, eventual…
I used to do the same thing at hotels. Still often works. nmap -sn 192.168.0.1-255 To find everyone on the network, then start spoofing each of their MACs until you find one that works
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#224I often use crontab, but this looks easier for testing. Thanks.
Re: WiFi without internet on a Southwest flight
#225Earlier quoted context omitted.
Good catch! I'm not very familiar with knots - what specifically makes the speeds here look like knots to you? edit: Updated the article. Thanks!
Airline planes never use mph but only knots.
Re: WiFi without internet on a Southwest flight
#226Here is how to get the equivalent data on a Delta flight. $ curl https://wifi.delta.com/api/flight-data | jq % Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed 100 448 100 448 0 0 5600 0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- 5743 { "timestamp": "2023-07-11T14:54:41Z", "eta": "17:48", "flightDuration": 278, "flightNumber": "DAL786", "latitude": 39.723472595214844, "longitude": -97…
It would be nice if you could send a POST request to open the door if you want some fresh air.
Re: WiFi without internet on a Southwest flight
#227I'm an Alaska (relatively) frequent flyer. That airline offers a free "messaging" plan, that lets you send and receive messages on apps like iMessage, Facebook Messenger and Whatsapp. Though, it somehow prevents images/attachments from coming through on those platforms. I've always wondered how this is implemented technically, and if it might be possible to setup some kind of protocol/wrapper to send data that looks…
Hi fellow Alaska frequent flier. So about that! There's this iOS app called Flightly that does a brilliant little hack where the app updates itself in (almost) real time on the "free messaging" plan. The way it works (according to a friend) is that their servers send your phone a push notification every couple of minutes from take-off until landing, containing some serialized info such as lat,long,alt,eta,etc. And th…
Re: WiFi without internet on a Southwest flight
#228Earlier quoted context omitted.
Maybe the plane is staying level but the ground is variable terrain.
Elevation is relative to sea level, not the ground.
(Although personally, I agree with the sibling comment that the variability is likely an artifact of the sensor resolution.)
Re: WiFi without internet on a Southwest flight
#229Earlier quoted context omitted.
Interesting how they chose to make more general `vehicleId` instead of `planeId` or `tailNumber` or something. I wonder if Delta's fleet includes other things that have matching APIs to this one. I also wonder how much of their internal system structure one could learn from the `flightId` if they knew about other systems. It doesn't look like much beyond a composite key of otherwise knowable data, but still interesti…
I doubt Delta made this. It’s an official the shelf product that can do ships, trains, planes, etc.
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#230“According to this data, the plane’s altitude was only fluctuating by about 20-30 feet. This is more stable than I expected!” Autopilots are very good and they are servoing to the pressure altitude. Many pressure altitude encoders used in modern aircraft (for example to drive altitudes that transponders report to SSR radar or via ADS-B) have 25 ft encoding resolution. That 25ft resolution is likely what is being seen…
A plane going up and down 20-30 feet seems like it would be very unpleasant. Considering that there's longitude and latitude, isn't it more likely that the altitude is coming from GPS, which is notoriously inaccurate with regards to elevation?
GPS altitude is used for vertical guidance for certain types of GPS approaches (i.e. "LPV" approaches[1]) and requires the airplane's avionics to be equipped with a WAAS[2] receiver that provides accurate altitude information.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Localizer_performance_with_ver...
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wide_Area_Augmentation_System