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Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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We need to invent something that does the opposite now where individuals could wear something that prevents them from showing up in someone else’s content without explicit digital consent (some sort of personal scrambler). I don’t think the LED feature listed on this product page will often be honored by most people who will use these shades

> some sort of personal scrambler We're nearly at the "Foundation" levels of surveillance tech, but with no countermeasures in sight to oppose that. Even resisting web browser fingerprinting is difficult.

A Halloween costume that changes the shape of the body and face should suffice. Let's all dress up as "V" from V for Vendetta. Some would say a persons gait can give them away so we can all walk or sashay like a runway model. The costume needs an RF blocking pocket for fondle slabs. I can picture this happening. Low tech, affordable, concept can be applied to any costume. Optional platform boots to balance peoples height.

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

#863

We need to invent something that does the opposite now where individuals could wear something that prevents them from showing up in someone else’s content without explicit digital consent (some sort of personal scrambler). I don’t think the LED feature listed on this product page will often be honored by most people who will use these shades

> some sort of personal scrambler We're nearly at the "Foundation" levels of surveillance tech, but with no countermeasures in sight to oppose that. Even resisting web browser fingerprinting is difficult.

There are no "hard" countermeasures possible, not technological ones - you're fighting against the laws of physics here, which mandate that everything constantly radiates information about what it's doing, in every direction, at the speed of light. Advancement of surveillance is advancement in being able to discern that information. You can try and introduce noise, but you're still fighting uphill, against the whole fields of signal processing and information theory.

The only "countermeasures" we can have are "soft" ones - social, political and legal. Convince people to treat privacy as core value, and surveillance as repugnant. Make forms of surveillance illegal. Mandate by law to have surveillance capabilities in devices handicapped by design. But this, at best, only solves the problem for regular people and some of the time, while governments stay stable and sane - the possibility of deeper surveillance is still there, just the choice to perform it seems unattractive at a given moment.

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Assuming both commenters are honest, I'm going to listen to the person who works in QA in the industry. The parent just sounds like someone who loves a specific item and is a bit miffed they changed it. Lots of "cheap plastic lenses" and "cheap spring hinges" type complaints without much backup. Is carbon fiber cheap and rubbish because it isn't steel? Why does the parent think plastic means inferior? "Mine are 40 ye…

This is just industry entrenchment. Owning a pair of old vs new raybans just doesn't compare, it's not just the weight. The springs and material are simply stronger, they don't break or get scuffed as easily. The new lenses may have some better technical properties in the lab or extreme settings but the biggest difference is just keeping them smudge free. Old lenses just stay clean and are so much easier to simply wi…

You can touch up an old car because they were not made to crumple when hit, which makes them pretty unsafe.

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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> It's nice that the poster you're replying to has deep knowledge about these glasses, but it doesn't actually change the way you feel about a sturdier-feeling product. This is the entire basis of Beats putting chunks of shitty iron in their headphones. It does absolutely nothing for the audio quality, but it makes them feel heavier and therefore people will swear up and down they are of better quality. Part of being…

Listening to some of these arguments you'd believe we need to get an expert's opinion and a literature review to gauge the quality of the things we use in our daily lives. I don't need an expert showing me a frequency curve to gauge the quality of earphones, I don't need an expert on manufacturing to tell me whether my current pair of glasses are more or less solid than the previous pair. Part of being an intelligent…

It would be nice to have, I look for that when planning to acquire items I don't understand. Inference is good, certainty is better.

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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The base, regular Wayfarers were cannibalized and cheapened out by Luxottica a long time ago. I'm fortunate enough to have a vintage pair from the mid-1980's that still look brand new. They have higher quality zyl frames, polarized glass Bausch & Lomb lenses, and, crucially, five barrel bolted hinges. They're built like a tank. The new ones are so cheap I won't even wear them. Cheap plastic, plastic lenses, spring hi…

I work in the optical industry. I do R&D/quality control for a lens manufacturer and agree Luxottica is an awful company, but your comment is way off base. It's actually quite wrong. Your "zyl" acetate frames aren't higher quality. Modern acetate is stronger, lighter, less brittle, less subject to warping from temperature change, and more resistant to UV damage which impacts brittleness and color. 40 years of materia…

Where do I go to for quality sunglasses?

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

#868

We need to invent something that does the opposite now where individuals could wear something that prevents them from showing up in someone else’s content without explicit digital consent (some sort of personal scrambler). I don’t think the LED feature listed on this product page will often be honored by most people who will use these shades

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Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Once smart glasses run solidly and can run mind blowing innovation / apps solidly too they are the next smart phone. Such innovations will sell smart glasses like apps drove smart phone sales. I think my argument is helped by the billions both Facebook and Apple are putting into smart glasses.

What about Google? They realised years ago that the market doesn't really want their product and found other niches to build their glasses for. If it's so obvious why would Google not care and only meta (which has a bad track record in finding trends) and apple follow that 'trend'

Google isnt much of an innovator they will just copy or steal from the market leader who finally gets it right like they did with Android and like many of their other products ..Siri first then Google assistant ...Alexa smart speaker then Google home products and etc, etc, etc

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

#870

We need to invent something that does the opposite now where individuals could wear something that prevents them from showing up in someone else’s content without explicit digital consent (some sort of personal scrambler). I don’t think the LED feature listed on this product page will often be honored by most people who will use these shades

Check out Adam Harvey's "CV Dazzle" and other related design efforts. CV Dazzle is from 2010 but still very cool, the concept is generally to design cyberpunk clothing and headware that is adversarial to face detection algorithms. Algorithms are always changing, but I'm sure there will always be attacks of this nature. We could see them pop up in military applications in addition to personal privacy.

https://adam.harvey.studio/cvdazzle

https://yr.media/tech/guide-to-anti-surveillance-fashion/

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