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Rasperry Pi 5 Specs and Images Leaked from Element14?

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Re: Rasperry Pi 5 Specs and Images Leaked from Element14?

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It quotes usb-c 5v@5A. I don't think I've ever seen a device that could provide 5V@5A over usb, is this a thing? It seems like this is going to really limit the flexibility of powering this.

Yes, I have a 130W laptop usb-c charger from Delll. It has 20V/6.5A.

Re: Rasperry Pi 5 Specs and Images Leaked from Element14?

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Everything else looks great but those filthy nasty micro HDMIs need to go away. Why do those still exist? It's like still using MicroUSB. I guess it must have something to do with legacy digital signage or something but still. Full size HDMI is fine because it's what everyone already has cables for, anything small could just be USB-C. Couldn't they have even just gone with a single USB-C and done the dual monitors wi…

I guess the choice is between single output big hdmi vs. two small. I'd prefer a single big one but don't care too much either way, you don't get new cables, you get an adapter. Much more concerned about the micro-sd slot. Biggest mistake and hassle of all the Pis.

Why is the micro sd a problem? It was there on the early pi (as a normal sized SD slot) since it was cheap, easy to implement and widely available. And the chips could not boot off usb so there was that. These days I guess it is mostly for legacy purposes and the pi can boot of usb anyway if you don't want to bother with it.

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The MBA uses more modern technology with a completely different price point?

Yes, but what technical aspect explains the difference, they’re both based on energy efficient arm technology. TDP for the cortex is lower I think? Is it the silicon size? Cortex is used in fanless phones.

It's about manufacturing. Has nothing to do with arm.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The MBA uses more modern technology with a completely different price point?

Yes, but what technical aspect explains the difference, they’re both based on energy efficient arm technology. TDP for the cortex is lower I think? Is it the silicon size? Cortex is used in fanless phones.

The heat sink of a phone is the phone. Without a sink this thing has a tiny surface area. The heatink of a Mac is order of magnitude bigger as in: the laptop.

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What software are you concerned about? I'm running Debian and I can apt-install anything in the arm repositories, which is basically everything. Neither the RP5 nor the rk3588 used on the Orange Pi have everything supported in mainline kernels, but in a year or so both probably will.

OS support, yes; the ARM ecosystem is overall a trash fire in terms of being able to use mainline Linux. Even Pis don't actually have a good track record with actual mainline Linux, but they're popular enough that their downstream patches are actually maintained so you can keep using current kernels; most boards get whatever buggy kernel the vendor drops when it ships and then nothing. Now AIUI Orange Pis do actually…

I have one orange pi board where I messed a bit with the OS/kernel. I think the kernel patches where copy of a competitor similar board with the same SoC (if I remember correctly a friendlyelec board) where the fact that it was copy pasting showed in places where they forgot to replace the name of the board...

Re: Rasperry Pi 5 Specs and Images Leaked from Element14?

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Everything else looks great but those filthy nasty micro HDMIs need to go away. Why do those still exist? It's like still using MicroUSB. I guess it must have something to do with legacy digital signage or something but still. Full size HDMI is fine because it's what everyone already has cables for, anything small could just be USB-C. Couldn't they have even just gone with a single USB-C and done the dual monitors wi…

The problem with putting USB-C video on there is that USB-C is DisplayPort, and there's a good chance for various reasons (last time it was said that at least historically, the Raspberry Pi is a cut down version of a Broadcom chip that was used in a set top box or media player or something) the SoC only has an HDMI interface block on it and not a DisplayPort one. Thus, supporting this would require the addition of at…

In that case, mini-HDMI would have fit without being as insanely brittle.

Re: Rasperry Pi 5 Specs and Images Leaked from Element14?

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There's no emmc in 2023... it just kills it for me.

Yeah, but your the tiny minority that does want eMMC but not the Compute Module. I like my Libre Le Potato for eMMC in the RPi3 format.

Somebody's buying all those pi-alikes from China with emmc, and they're not buying sd-only boards like rpi.

Re: Rasperry Pi 5 Specs and Images Leaked from Element14?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess the choice is between single output big hdmi vs. two small. I'd prefer a single big one but don't care too much either way, you don't get new cables, you get an adapter. Much more concerned about the micro-sd slot. Biggest mistake and hassle of all the Pis.

The microSD slot is one of my favorite features on the Pi. It's so easy to manage configurations, you can write the system to a new card, swap, and even nontechnical people can swap back if needed, and it's all cheap. If it were up to me, Android phones might be doing the same thing, SD as primary storage, with an OS that was optimized for write cycle preservation. It's just so convenient, simple, and obvious. I don'…

I don't care about bandwidth, everything you need should fit in ram anyway.

Reliability is the only thing I care about. And you can't have that with sd-cards.

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