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On Amazon pi 4s seem to finally be back under $100, so at least in the US the supply seems to be catching up again.
That’s still 3 times the regular price.
Not for the 8GiB version.
Rasperry Pi 5 Specs and Images Leaked from Element14?
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#42Why does a pi 5 with no enclosure need active cooling, whereas a MacBook Air doesn’t?
The MBA uses more modern technology with a completely different price point?
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#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
I guess the choice is between single output big hdmi vs. two small. I'd prefer a single big one but don't care too much either way, you don't get new cables, you get an adapter. Much more concerned about the micro-sd slot. Biggest mistake and hassle of all the Pis.
One Word: DisplayPort. MicroSD is a pain but it very easy to switch to much faster(OR SLOWER) USB flash drives. eMMC programming would be an unnecessary pain for the non Compute Module users.
Since TVs are one of the primary use-cases for these that isn't ideal either.
USB flash drives suck too. And high-quality ones are almost always bulky. But doesn't matter, they still mostly suck.
And no, there is absolutely nothing in the world of Pi that is as unnecessary and has so much suffering as the use of sd-card brings.
Program via usb-stick, everyone has one. More people than have sd-cards for sure.
Or have both.
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#44I'll never understand putting half the ports on one side of the board and half the ports on another. There is no neat way of running a Pi either headless or plugged into a display and keyboard/mouse that doesn't involve an absolute clusterf** of cables going every which way on your desk. I get that the board is small, but, put the most commonly used ports on one edge, and extra/accessory ports on another. Power, netw…
A raspberry pi has literally more ports than your average laptop, in a much much smaller PCB footprint.
Of course the port layout is going to be a fiasco. It's just not physically possible any other way, unless you start shoving everything into a single USB-C port and force the user into using adapters and docks, at which point you'd just be removing actual ports like laptop makers have been doing for the past years.
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#45Can't help but I feel slightly disappointed. This is essentially a weaker version of RK3588 based SBCs, but lacks both smaller cores as well as NPU. And those boards are available with 16GB of memory. And we're talking about a very old core at this point, A76 really isn't new (~5 years old core).
That isn't to said it's useless, the Ampere Altra is using basically the same arch as this one and it's perfectly usable. But if I wanted a small machine, an Alder Lake-N is a lot faster and at the same price - and runs perfectly with upstream Linux. I feel like the only nice selling point is now the formfactor and hopeful future "neat-little-addons" to this one.
RK3588 can't use upstream and I assume this one will not either for now (Phoronix left that out of their article - curious). I would hope this gets better support than the RK3588, but when? And since this is actively cooled in any case, the ADL-N looks far more interesting as cheap computing/server solution.
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#46They (Phoronix) are benchmarking the RP5 against an Orange Pi 5. There is also an Orange Pi 5 Plus, which adds a ton of stuff. If you don't need the Raspberry Pi specifically for some reason, the Orange Pi Plus is faster and has way more features, and to me is very interesting for a lot of use cases. Plus you can buy them without fighting with scalpers or being limited to buying 1.
http://www.orangepi.org/html/hardWare/computerAndMicrocontro...
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#47Has there been any info that would enable guesses about level of availability or lack thereof?
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#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
The problem with putting USB-C video on there is that USB-C is DisplayPort, and there's a good chance for various reasons (last time it was said that at least historically, the Raspberry Pi is a cut down version of a Broadcom chip that was used in a set top box or media player or something) the SoC only has an HDMI interface block on it and not a DisplayPort one. Thus, supporting this would require the addition of at…
Would love to use a Pi with my portable monitor, but no idea how without this.
Why not a MicroHDMI to HDMI cable?
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#49It blows my mind how shitty Raspberry PI foundation are to their community: - They prioritized industry over community, and made it almost impossible for hobbyists to get any meaningful hardware for so long. - They allowed retailers like Pimoroni price gouge Raspberry PI's by forcing everyone to buy really expensive bundles of needles cables, power adapters, officially licensed toothbrushes, and other nonsense - And…
> It blows my mind how shitty Raspberry PI foundation are to their community:
You are conflating Raspberry Pi (Trading) Ltd and Raspberry Pi Foundation.
The foundation is hardware agnostic, and even create content for 3rd party micros such as the micro:bit [1].
> prioritized industry over community, and made it almost impossible for hobbyists to get any meaningful hardware for so long
The company went through an existential crisis during the silicon shortage / pandemic. They had to make very hard decisions. The "prioritized industry" was mostly constrained to older hardware w/ larger process node sizes (Raspberry Pi 3), and compute module.
[1] https://projects.raspberrypi.org/en/projects/getting-started...
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#50I'll never understand putting half the ports on one side of the board and half the ports on another. There is no neat way of running a Pi either headless or plugged into a display and keyboard/mouse that doesn't involve an absolute clusterf** of cables going every which way on your desk. I get that the board is small, but, put the most commonly used ports on one edge, and extra/accessory ports on another. Power, netw…
> no neat way of running a Pi
Not to undermine your concerns, but in case you are curious the Raspberry Pi Compute Module 4 (CM4) is lovely and allows you to choose from a wide variety of carrier boards which might better fit your use case. I use them in my robots but I have a few carrier boards for home that make them like a regular Pi for random stuff around the house.