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Re: EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals

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This will improve driving safety.

Currently any recognized address is an advertisement for Apple Maps in the App Store (which I can’t use due to how dangerously inaccurate it is in rural areas)

This makes the copy paste activity opening google maps, etc. much more likely to go away.

Re: EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals

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I tend to drop the bot/shill-detector part of my brain when I'm on HN, but whenever this topic crops up it's always a deluge of people with the same exact arguments saying "ohh my poor grandma will be coerced to install a Virus if we allow the owner of an iDevice any freedom whatsoever with hardware they bought!!!", and it's quite interesting to me the volume of comments with the exact same identical sentiment copy/p…

The App Store is not perfect, but what was the last time you actually installed a virus on iOS or iPadOS? It's working Good Enough™ I wish/hope that as the default family IT guy, I will be able to set policies on my parents devices that block 3rd party apps.

Same could be said for Android. Moreover, exploit brokers are paying more for Android exploits than iOS ones [1], and that could be used as a good counter argument against Apple's security and privacy fearmongering.

[1] https://www.zerodium.com/program.html

Re: EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals

#833

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This reads like a modern retelling of the Stockholm syndrome and I cringe at this prevalent attitude on HN. If you do not have choice on the platform, you are in a prison. That is why it's called jailbreaking .

You do have a choice. Buy an Android phone.

And if I want the better UI that comes with Apple, why should your stockholm-syndrome keep me in prison with it?

Re: EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals

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Both of your statements are Apple marketing speaking, and demonstrably false.

Present your work / citation needed.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/17/technology/apple-china-pr...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jun/06/us-tech-giants...

Re: EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals

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> User has the freedom to buy or not. User also has the freedom to use whatever he bought in any way he sees fit (as long as it isn't illegal). Or do you consider that something a user shouldn't be able to do?

And a business has freedom to restrict their products to prevent what they believe isn’t the use case they want. And users have the freedom to put their money where their mouth is by purchasing alternatives on the market.

And government has freedom to restrict business from restricting their users freedom to do what they want with the products they bought.

I feel like we're going around in circles.

Re: EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals

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Whats stopping you staying inside the existing Apple tools, after they open things up?

Ok. Then tell me what's stopping us from using Adobe products on macOS without filling the computer with Adobe™ Updater and Creative Cloud™ daemon processes and other junk?

Re: EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals

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Fucking good. It's bullshit that you can only run Safari on iOS or that the App Store is the only store you can use. Yes, I understand the security implications of a third-party browser having deeper integrations into the OS and potential battery life concerns. I also don't care. I want to run Firefox on my phone. The actual thing. With containers and extensions. Let Safari compete on the merits. I want the choice of…

Chrome runs on iOS

Re: EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals

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Bureaucrats and their good intentions. Apple is not even close to being a monopoly on the market of smartphones. And the reason their products work so well (despite some lapses in last 6-7 years) is integration. Creating the whole banana as Jobs used to say. This makes me feel sick, as sick as I was having to jump through hoops installing European Windows which had its browser and media player removed because of European Union's bureaucrats and their good intentions. I don't even like Microsoft. But what I like even less is people with zero technical skill and understanding of managing ecosystems forcefully ruining the efforts of those who succeeded with theirs through incompetent regulation.

Re: EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals

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I mean I don't know a single apple user that trusts apple but maybe I understand the concept differently than what you're implying. I love my iphone but that's in SPITE of apple's app store meddling, not because of that. The one exception I can think of is apple forcing twitter to keep the block functionality.

I trust Apple that if I subscribe to some paid app from the AppStore, the subscription can be cancelled anytime from a unified place. And Apple is forcing every shady company to adopt this system if they're offering subscriptions.

Apple is forcing every shady company to disclose their tracking practices in the AppStore page of their app.

Apple is forcing every shady company to provide good reason to the app review board why their app needs permission for background execution, bluetooth usage, location permissions, and any other sensitive stuff. They can't just ask for a ton of permissions and count on the user blanket-approving them due to popup blindness.

Apple is forcing every shady company to offer pseudonymous Apple login if they require registration, so they can't harvest my email address or spam me after I stopped using their app.

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