China is flooding Taiwan with disinformation • Hacker News Board

Re: China is flooding Taiwan with disinformation

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Post by throwaway1492 » Wed, Sep 27, 2023, 2:02 AM UTC

georgeplusplus wrote: post #36

WiSaGaN wrote: post #13

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This is said by "Rep. Seth Moulton (Mass.) — one of the Democratic Party’s leading voices on defense": Speaking at a Milken Institute panel in Los Angeles, Moulton said: “One of the interesting ideas that’s been floated out there for deterrence is just making it very clear to the Chinese that if you invade Taiwan, we’re going to blow up TSMC.” He continued: “I just throw that out not because that’s necessarily the be…

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Who thought the crypto currency killer app would be payouts to corrupt politicians and influencers?

Re: China is flooding Taiwan with disinformation

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Post by hohohmm » Wed, Sep 27, 2023, 2:02 AM UTC

The fact that saying it's disinformation is downvoted so rapidly perfectly illustrates how hard it is to tell what is the actual disinformation

Re: China is flooding Taiwan with disinformation

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Post by _kbh_ » Wed, Sep 27, 2023, 2:04 AM UTC

Supply5411 wrote: post #38

samcheng wrote: post #31

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I’m not seeing much independent thought outside the usual “America bad”. It’s interesting that a lot of those independent thinkers all have the exact same opinions.

Re: China is flooding Taiwan with disinformation

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Post by SkyMarshal » Wed, Sep 27, 2023, 2:05 AM UTC

AbrahamParangi wrote: post #23

Supply5411 wrote: post #18

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You’re downvoted because this claim is worse than an insane conspiracy theory. It’s just mind-blowingly stupid.

Also b/c the account is 19days old.

Re: China is flooding Taiwan with disinformation

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Post by sva_ » Wed, Sep 27, 2023, 2:06 AM UTC

Supply5411 wrote: post #38

samcheng wrote: post #31

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It's funny that you make this qualitative assessment about the history of this board, and the very topic of burner accounts, while posting from a fresh account.

Re: China is flooding Taiwan with disinformation

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Post by palmfacehn » Wed, Sep 27, 2023, 2:06 AM UTC

samcheng wrote: post #31

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Critiques or discussions of the CCP generally devolve into flamewars. I've seen worse here. The site is more interesting for tech topics. Anything with a nationalistic component will become inflammatory.

There is an organized brigade somewhere out there, but I suspect the younger, overseas students "bring their own rations" out of a sense of national pride and alienation. If you call them paid agents, it will only make them dig in deeper.

> Please don't post insinuations about astroturfing, shilling, brigading, foreign agents, and the like. It degrades discussion and is usually mistaken. If you're worried about abuse, email hn@ycombinator.com and we'll look at the data.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: China is flooding Taiwan with disinformation

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Post by RajT88 » Wed, Sep 27, 2023, 2:07 AM UTC

peepeepoopoo39 wrote: post #14

jamesaurichs wrote: post #9

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There's going to be a lot of Russian and Chinese interference in American politics in 2024 for sure

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Nothing says "I am speaking the literal nonpartisan truth" like a burner account.

Re: China is flooding Taiwan with disinformation

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Post by AnotherGoodName » Wed, Sep 27, 2023, 2:08 AM UTC

palmfacehn wrote: post #46

samcheng wrote: post #31

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Critiques or discussions of the CCP generally devolve into flamewars. I've seen worse here. The site is more interesting for tech topics. Anything with a nationalistic component will become inflammatory. There is an organized brigade somewhere out there, but I suspect the younger, overseas students "bring their own rations" out of a sense of national pride and alienation. If you call them paid agents, it will only ma…

I honestly don't think HN is capable of acting as a forum for these topics. It takes a lot of moderation and abuse prevention. The article is absolutely interesting and raises good points but this thread is already too polluted by cheap disinformation techniques (namely whataboutism) to have any meaningful discussion at this point. Good luck with this one mods!

Re: China is flooding Taiwan with disinformation

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Post by eloisius » Wed, Sep 27, 2023, 2:08 AM UTC

Supply5411 wrote: post #24

AbrahamParangi wrote: post #23

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You’re downvoted because this claim is worse than an insane conspiracy theory. It’s just mind-blowingly stupid.

What claim? I'm quoting the article and saying its ridiculous that racial bioweapon threats are becoming normalized.

The quote is an example of Chinese disinformation being spread in Taiwan, not a reflection of anything in reality.

Re: China is flooding Taiwan with disinformation

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Post by zoom6628 » Wed, Sep 27, 2023, 2:09 AM UTC

maverick2007 wrote: post #5

> America had asked Taiwan to manufacture biological weapons at a lab run by the island’s defence ministry, the report claimed. This reminds me a lot of the (presumably Russian disinformation) story that flitted around American conservative spheres early in the Ukraine war saying that the US gov was setting up bio weapon labs at the border with Russia and that's why the Russian invasion was justified. Funny how the e…

The volume of Chinese disinformation inside China about Ukraine from Feb 2022 thru dec 2022 was amazing. Bio weapons, assassination plots, secret missiles - pick your favourite conspiracy theory and it was out there.

The CCP UnitedFront don't seem to realise the damage they are doing to their own political image.

And for fellow HN readers no matter what you read about China always bear in mind that politics comes first. It is more important than lives, morals, history, families, science, economics. Everything is subservient to politics, everything. Not saying is good or bad - it is just the CCP "way".