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China is flooding Taiwan with disinformation

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Re: China is flooding Taiwan with disinformation

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China is having an internal information crackdown. It's approaching the nutty level, which probably indicates that Xi is losing it. The latest thing is a crackdown on clothing "detrimental to the spirit of the Chinese people."[1]

[1] https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-66737272

Re: China is flooding Taiwan with disinformation

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>She points to a spurious claim that America “wants to blow up” TSMC, a Taiwanese chipmaker. It originated with a misleading video posted on Douyin, the Chinese version of TikTok, which featured an American lawmaker appearing to discuss the possibility. This part stood out to me as I've seen this mentioned several times on HN in the past. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

This is said by "Rep. Seth Moulton (Mass.) — one of the Democratic Party’s leading voices on defense": Speaking at a Milken Institute panel in Los Angeles, Moulton said: “One of the interesting ideas that’s been floated out there for deterrence is just making it very clear to the Chinese that if you invade Taiwan, we’re going to blow up TSMC.” He continued: “I just throw that out not because that’s necessarily the be…

That’s a bizarre idea. China wants Taiwan because they consider it a renegade province. I doubt they care about one fab.

Re: China is flooding Taiwan with disinformation

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Could you list a bunch of it and explain why it's disinformation? Given it's a flood, there must be an enormous amount of it over time.

There was so much disinformation the Chinese military had to crush it in the streets with tanks.

Ah yes that event that famously took place on the island of taiwan....

Re: China is flooding Taiwan with disinformation

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>She points to a spurious claim that America “wants to blow up” TSMC, a Taiwanese chipmaker. It originated with a misleading video posted on Douyin, the Chinese version of TikTok, which featured an American lawmaker appearing to discuss the possibility. This part stood out to me as I've seen this mentioned several times on HN in the past. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

This is said by "Rep. Seth Moulton (Mass.) — one of the Democratic Party’s leading voices on defense": Speaking at a Milken Institute panel in Los Angeles, Moulton said: “One of the interesting ideas that’s been floated out there for deterrence is just making it very clear to the Chinese that if you invade Taiwan, we’re going to blow up TSMC.” He continued: “I just throw that out not because that’s necessarily the be…

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Re: China is flooding Taiwan with disinformation

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is said by "Rep. Seth Moulton (Mass.) — one of the Democratic Party’s leading voices on defense": Speaking at a Milken Institute panel in Los Angeles, Moulton said: “One of the interesting ideas that’s been floated out there for deterrence is just making it very clear to the Chinese that if you invade Taiwan, we’re going to blow up TSMC.” He continued: “I just throw that out not because that’s necessarily the be…

That’s a bizarre idea. China wants Taiwan because they consider it a renegade province. I doubt they care about one fab.

Yeah. China has its stance consistently since 1940s, it is not that they woke up about Taiwan in 2010.

It is more of a scorched earth plan. There isn't much of interest to US beyond TSMC. As long as it doesn't fall in hand of China, rest it will be OK to loose.

Re: China is flooding Taiwan with disinformation

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is said by "Rep. Seth Moulton (Mass.) — one of the Democratic Party’s leading voices on defense": Speaking at a Milken Institute panel in Los Angeles, Moulton said: “One of the interesting ideas that’s been floated out there for deterrence is just making it very clear to the Chinese that if you invade Taiwan, we’re going to blow up TSMC.” He continued: “I just throw that out not because that’s necessarily the be…

That’s a bizarre idea. China wants Taiwan because they consider it a renegade province. I doubt they care about one fab.

It's dangerous strategically for the US to believe that China's motivation is about TSMC. "Taiwan" might not even be just a "CCP" goal. In fact, the "CCP" wouldn't likely survive without making unification a priority.

Re: China is flooding Taiwan with disinformation

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> Who cares? Presumable the hundreds of thousands, or maybe even millions of people in China who are going to die if they invade Taiwan, due to all the weapons that the US gives Taiwan and will continue to give them to defend themselves. And possibly even more that that if and when either the USA or surrounding Pacific Asia countries get directly involved against China. Those US bases aren't there for show. Instead,…

If it goes that far, the global economic ramifications could easily have a death toll exceeding direct hostilities. Or maybe trade would continue while war raged, it seems surreal, but it isn't unthinkable.
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