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Re: EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals

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You won't, because once Chrome becomes available it will kill every other browser vendor.

how? I can still install Firefox on desktop and android despite chrome’s dominance.

What is the user base of Firefox now? Single digits, last I hear. Chrome just keeps growing. Once iOS no longer uses WebKit as it’s base, the Chrome Blink will dominate.

Re: EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals

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I for one am excited at the prospect that I might be able to install Firefox with ublock origin on my iPhone.

You won't, because once Chrome becomes available it will kill every other browser vendor.

I believe Safari will improve though. Currently Apple has little incentive to put more money into Safari because there’s no competition. Once they have to open up iOS to competition, they’ll spent more money on Safari to stay competitive. The web is still an important platform they cannot just ignore. And they have the resources and the know how, so they have a good chance of succeeding. And they will still be the native and default choice (even with browser choice), so they will also have that advantage still.

Re: EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals

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My opinion won't be popular.

I think it is nice to have a choice of a walled off platform. If I wanted a "more open" platform, I would get an Android phone. There are plenty of amazing Android phones.

I choose the tradeoff of Apple's curation.

Yes, I cannot run arbitrary software and sometimes it is a disadvantage. Yes, I don't agree with all of the App Store rules all of the time. Yes, I don't think the App Store revenue split is entirely fair.

However, I absolutely love that all the developers including the likes of Meta or Uber have to bow down to Apple's rules, which are mostly beneficial to me. I don't want to download apps from alternative app stores. I want them to be available in App Store and to be submitting to all of the curation rules.

Perhaps it might seem ridiculous to you, but I want to have the freedom to choose a closed ecosystem as long as there is a good alternative.

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On the other hand, I think jailbreaking shouldn't void warranty. Also, I might be fine with a regulation that forces Apple to release an "official jailbreak". But that policy should then also apply to PlayStation, X-box, Tesla infotainment, etc.

Re: EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals

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I don't understand if this is an ask or a demand backed by the power of the EU.

I read this as a statement of fact. The Digital Market Act has come into force. The act gives the platforms (Apple included) few months of preparations to comply. Breton just reminds that the clock is ticking.

Re: EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals

#75

I for one look forward to there being a franken iphone in EU covered with ads and malware. Apple should give them exactly what they want. Every major software company will have their own app store for their apps. It will be glorius!

This idea that without a tightly controlled monopoly enforced by digital locks, the world will immediately devolve into chaos. On my phone I can install proprietary apps from Google's store, or open source apps from F-droid. What's wrong with having choice?

You have choice, the choice to buy an Android phone, already.

Re: EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals

#76

It is understandable why Apple wants to keep its current grip on iOS indefinitely. What I don't understand is why some people defend it, on this very forum! One commenter simultaneously defended gay marriages - "if you don't like gay marriages, don't get married to gays" - and defended the Apple's monopoly - "I like that there is only one Appstore and developers won't force me to sideload".

Likely for the same reasons people defend billionaires that are actively doing everything that can to shift more wealth away from them.

Re: EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals

#77
Well, we'll see how it goes. There's good reasons for, and against.

The one thing that I know, for sure, is that Apple users are valued a hell of a lot more, by crooks, than Android and Windows users. Those folks are probably rubbing their hands in glee (I would not be surprised if quite a few of them, are on this very forum).

Should be interesting...

Re: EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals

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Current iOS browser situation is quite a joke. Recently they added possibility for other browsers to "Add page to Home Screen". But this shortcut later opens in Safari...

Indeed, it will be so great when web developers can just force everyone to use chrome.

Agree, most web developers now are just in the opposite campaign of web "users" and trying every possible way to make their jobs (squeezing every penny out of their "users") simpler without any other considerations

Re: EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals

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I for one look forward to there being a franken iphone in EU covered with ads and malware. Apple should give them exactly what they want. Every major software company will have their own app store for their apps. It will be glorius!

Protections against malware are the job of the operating system not an app store. And I don't understand the point about ads. The vast majority of apps currently available on the app store is already plastered with ads?

The App Store ads are trivial and not the concern. I’m more concerned about the tracking that apps will be able to do when Apple cannot block them from installing. Hello FaceBook++
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