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Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

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Post by Pxtl »

adeon wrote: post #70

NetHack did this when Fandom was still called Wikia. Luckily, the new forked site won search engines over easily and nethackwiki.com easily comes on first results if you search for NetHack stuff. Unlike NetHack, the Minecraft Fandom site is probably a lot more lucrative in ad revenue. I randomly was checking on Fandom's wikipedia page and noticed: "On October 3, 2022, Fandom acquired GameSpot, Metacritic, TV Guide, G…

> I randomly was checking on Fandom's wikipedia page and noticed: "On October 3, 2022, Fandom acquired GameSpot, Metacritic, TV Guide, GameFAQs, Giant Bomb, Cord Cutters News, and Comic Vine from Red Ventures."

Enshittification as a service.

Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

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Post by aendruk »

dyno12345 wrote: post #133
TheRealPomax wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Never having played Minecraft: does this game not come with a manual? (even if it's in PDF form or the like?)

no, and there's no tutorial or anything. it's weird to jump right into the game without prior experience. you sort of need a friend to explain it to you.

And for the group I played with this was an essential element of the fun. The chaos of trying to survive the first few nights when you knew nothing about the game. The fear of the unknown as darkness falls, panic induced by sightings and sounds of threats unfamiliar. I’d love to be able to forget all I know and re-experience this version of the game.

Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

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Post by falsenapkin »

perihelions wrote: post #73

It's currently my 5th result for "minecraft wiki" on Kagi, after I decided to penalize fandom.com's ranking on a whim. (Also, the 2nd result is an official Mastodon post which mirrors this announcement, so it would be easily discoverable. Not too bad!) (For Google, it's the 7th result for me, below three different versions of fandom.com).

I was embarrassingly excited to edit my Kagi Personalized Results with a block for Fandom and a pin for minecraft.wiki. This was yesterday and for me searching "minecraft wiki" and some obvious wiki things was not yielding the new wiki on any of Google/DDG/Kagi.

Got me thinking it could be interesting for Kagi to release personalized packages, like say you get into a new hobby (Minecraft) and you can quickly peruse/apply sensible personalization.

Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

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Post by a13o »

LeifCarrotson wrote: post #61

For some background, the old wiki was hosted on Fandom. All the major volunteer contributors are moving to minecraft.wiki, but the old page will almost certainly stay up, frozen in time, throwing trackers and ads on kids not savvy enough to locate the new link. It is interesting to me how many games, Minecraft in particular, rely on wikis - they're very different experiences, sometimes almost unplayable, if you don't…

You might enjoy this citizen science dive into the relationship between WoW and wikis, titled "Why It's Rude to Suck at Warcraft".

One of the premises is that wikis are required reading; because if you aren't min/maxing, you're breaking the social contract with your guildmates. It's a totally emergent and novel way for a game to become 'unplayable'!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BKP1I7IocYU

Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

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Post by aendruk »

bronson wrote: post #141
zeroCalories wrote: post #109

I've always wondered why a wiki needs to monetize so hard. Most of their content easily cacheable and produced by volunteers, plus the technology hasn't really changed in 20 years. The whole site could probably be maintained by a single dev and a few admins. It seems natural that these sites are going to eventually be replaced because of this. Maybe I have an incorrect view of the costs/revenue.

Because Fandom is owned by these guys: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TPG_Inc .

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TPG_Inc%2e

Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

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Post by paradox460 »

ivanjermakov wrote: post #185
paradox460 wrote: post #144

Starfield is currently undergoing a bit of a wiki arms race. There's at least four that I know of, plus an honorable mention: • https://starfieldwiki.net • https://starfield.fandom.com • https://starfield.wiki.fextralife.com • https://www.starfielddb.com • https://www.ign.com/wikis/starfield (this is the honorable mention) None of them are complete, and all have vastly different ideas on how it should work and look.…

If game developers question how to design something, I suggest checking how Wube (Factorio developers) did it: https://wiki.factorio.com .

Another good example is the TeamFortress wiki:

https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Main_Page

Started as a community wiki, and then Valve started hosting it and supporting it a few years later. They leave most of the admin up to the community, but do step in as needed for Terms of Service.

Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

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Post by SCLeo »

In all seriousness, what fuck is going on in Fandom? It has soooo much ads!

I just turned off my ad blocker and literally only 21% of the page is content and the remaining is ads. After 2 seconds, it got replaced by a full screen ad. What? How? What are the people at fandom thinking? This is completely unusable without adblockers!

Don't believe me, here are the screenshots I just took: https://imgur.com/a/sNg3IlJ

Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

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Post by zeroCalories »

ska wrote: post #168
zeroCalories wrote: post #109

I've always wondered why a wiki needs to monetize so hard. Most of their content easily cacheable and produced by volunteers, plus the technology hasn't really changed in 20 years. The whole site could probably be maintained by a single dev and a few admins. It seems natural that these sites are going to eventually be replaced because of this. Maybe I have an incorrect view of the costs/revenue.

> "needs" What if the monetization is the point, not the content?

If you charge over the market rate you will get undercut by competition? Seems risky to make your site borderline unusable for cash you don't need.

Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

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Post by majewsky »

n6h6 wrote: post #189
secret-noun wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> fextralife Yes, please let us get away from them. If you've ever browsed Twitch, you'll see them with tens of thousands of viewers... but when you join the channel, engagement is sparse. The reason this happens is because they embed their Twitch stream into every. page. you. visit. This is slimy, annoying, and slows the loading.

How is this not illegal / grounds for having the channel deleted?

Why is Twitch not blocking a method for delivering their embedded video ads onto unrelated websites? Yeah, no idea.
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