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Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

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Post by mcpackieh »

mrob wrote: post #174
codetrotter wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I remember in 2009 or 2010, when I first came across Minecraft. It was not hugely popular yet, but it already had quite an active community. I played quite a few hours of the game, both alone and together with a couple of friends. One day, after a couple of weeks or something, I learned about a crafting wiki that told you how to craft different items. At the time, at least for me, it was not clear how you figure out…

If you want to see an almost entirely unspoilered playthrough of Minecraft, Japanese player PiroPito has a long series of videos on Youtube (with English subtitles): https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbqkLu2V1bJJUQ2aLZjFd... This series is notable for inspiring the addition of Ruined Portals, as construction of a Nether Portal had no in-game hints at the time, and was the only thing he needed a spoiler to figure…

He also needed a hint for spawning the Wither. The game already has a hint for this but it's obscure, so he was given a hint for where to find the in-game hint. Tragic but funny result when he eventually figured it out.

Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

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Post by mcpackieh »

dyno12345 wrote: post #133
TheRealPomax wrote: post #119

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Never having played Minecraft: does this game not come with a manual? (even if it's in PDF form or the like?)

no, and there's no tutorial or anything. it's weird to jump right into the game without prior experience. you sort of need a friend to explain it to you.

There was a tutorial level in early console versions, but that's gone from console versions now: https://minecraft.wiki/w/Legacy_Console_Edition_tutorial

Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

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Post by ivanjermakov »

pie_flavor wrote: post #147

Hallelujah. Fandom I think is the single most unusable site I have any reason to visit; every time there's a Show HN about a service to 'simplify' a webpage, Fandom is the site I test it on. A history recap for those who do not know: 2013: Minecraft Wiki migrates from a self-hosted solution to Gamepedia run by Curse. This was a good decision at the time, because Curse was pretty trusted in the community; Minecraft mo…

Fandom, Quora, Linkedin. Absolutely unusable without adblocker.

Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

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Post by midasz »

cookmeplox wrote: post #142
zeroCalories wrote: post #109

I've always wondered why a wiki needs to monetize so hard. Most of their content easily cacheable and produced by volunteers, plus the technology hasn't really changed in 20 years. The whole site could probably be maintained by a single dev and a few admins. It seems natural that these sites are going to eventually be replaced because of this. Maybe I have an incorrect view of the costs/revenue.

> Maybe I have an incorrect view of the costs/revenue. I run Weird Gloop (the group hosting the Minecraft/RuneScape wikis) and your view is generally correct. The content is extremely cacheable and the infrastructure costs have extremely strong economies-of-scale. The labor costs are a bit less obvious, but past a certain baseline (of, say, having enough people for a reasonable oncall rotation), the marginal labor co…

And the osrs wiki is pretty special too imo since there is custom code (like calculators and integrations with RL Plugins). Best wiki I've seen.

Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

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Post by ivanjermakov »

paradox460 wrote: post #144

Starfield is currently undergoing a bit of a wiki arms race. There's at least four that I know of, plus an honorable mention: • https://starfieldwiki.net • https://starfield.fandom.com • https://starfield.wiki.fextralife.com • https://www.starfielddb.com • https://www.ign.com/wikis/starfield (this is the honorable mention) None of them are complete, and all have vastly different ideas on how it should work and look.…

If game developers question how to design something, I suggest checking how Wube (Factorio developers) did it: https://wiki.factorio.com.

Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

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Post by dang »

Kye wrote: post #33

Previously: "Minecraft Wiki considers move away from Fandom to new platform" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36648325

Thanks! Macroexpanded:

Minecraft Wiki considers move away from Fandom to new platform - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36648325 - July 2023 (25 comments)

Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

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Post by Reubachi »

ye-olde-sysrq wrote: post #104
chx wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Path Of Exile Wiki has also moved about two years ago and GGG is providing hosting for a year now. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3292958 https://www.poewiki.net/ The old fandom wiki is quite dead but it's impossible to get rid of it, alas.

OSRS also moved to oldschool.runescape.wiki and AIUI jagex pays for their hosting and provides some kind of content access to make updating/syncing easier. Plus they have RuneLite cooperating with crowdsourcing things like droptables and drop rates. (And of course mods often will outright tell them what certain droprates are or how they function).

OSRS wiki isn't the best example. Jagex does not fund it, and is recommending they move to fandom/ad based support.

Despite the OSRS wiki being legitimately the best website I use every day, it's leadership has been sounding the death knell every few months, always to an alarmingly quiet response.

They have no money, have no revenue generator, and have a full staff that needs to be paid. The last post they put to the community mentioned moving back to fandom (crazy) or injecting ads at a pretty insane volume.

So yes, fandom sucks. But also, a "normal" wiki takes expertise, and usually, compensation.

Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

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Post by n6h6 »

secret-noun wrote: post #152
msp26 wrote: post #60

Excellent. I hope to see more games following suit away from the bloated messes of fandom/fextralife. At times they feel unusable on mobile. And I don't think a single user has wanted to see the embedded twitch streams when they're just trying to get some information quickly.

> fextralife Yes, please let us get away from them. If you've ever browsed Twitch, you'll see them with tens of thousands of viewers... but when you join the channel, engagement is sparse. The reason this happens is because they embed their Twitch stream into every. page. you. visit. This is slimy, annoying, and slows the loading.

How is this not illegal / grounds for having the channel deleted?

Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

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Post by n6h6 »

BigJono wrote: post #173
chx wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Path Of Exile Wiki has also moved about two years ago and GGG is providing hosting for a year now. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3292958 https://www.poewiki.net/ The old fandom wiki is quite dead but it's impossible to get rid of it, alas.

It's absolutely infuriating that Google can't fuck the old fandom wiki off the top of every search result despite it having completely outdated information and zero updates. You're telling me with all the fancy algorithms and their zillions of engineers they can't manage to notice that an entire subdomain hasn't had any updates to it's pages in 2 years and that every single person that clicks the search result ends u…

They can probably do anything, but why would they when Fandom puts 3 gigabytes of their ads on every page of every wiki on their site? That's their bread and butter. You don't kill your livestock until you have to.
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