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Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

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Post by bisby »

rbits wrote: post #93
bisby wrote: post #80

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A few games I play have DDG bangs that take you directly to the fandom sites, even though the games now have their own self hosted wiki. Perfect exactly would be _minecraft_. If you search for "!minecraft dirt" it takes you to the fandom page. Will DDG update the bang to search via the official wiki? probably not! Maybe now is the time to switch to Kagi

I've submiited a request to DDG, hopefully they update it

Hopefully, given minecraft is a large game. I've submitted requests over the years for other games with no change or response even.

Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

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Post by iamacyborg »

msp26 wrote: post #150
bakugo wrote: post #67

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> And I don't think a single user has wanted to see the embedded twitch streams when they're just trying to get some information quickly. The embedded Twitch stream is there purely as a way to artificially boost viewer counts on their channel. Almost every time a new game comes out, you can go to its Twitch page and see Fextralife at the top with tens of thousands of viewers, with a dead chat because almost nobody is…

Don't advertisers care that they're wasting money? Or are they just unaware?

The latter, mostly.

Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

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Post by BigJono »

chx wrote: post #91
msp26 wrote: post #60

Excellent. I hope to see more games following suit away from the bloated messes of fandom/fextralife. At times they feel unusable on mobile. And I don't think a single user has wanted to see the embedded twitch streams when they're just trying to get some information quickly.

Path Of Exile Wiki has also moved about two years ago and GGG is providing hosting for a year now. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3292958 https://www.poewiki.net/ The old fandom wiki is quite dead but it's impossible to get rid of it, alas.

It's absolutely infuriating that Google can't fuck the old fandom wiki off the top of every search result despite it having completely outdated information and zero updates.

You're telling me with all the fancy algorithms and their zillions of engineers they can't manage to notice that an entire subdomain hasn't had any updates to it's pages in 2 years and that every single person that clicks the search result ends up doing another search 20 seconds later?

Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

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Post by mrob »

codetrotter wrote: post #77
LeifCarrotson wrote: post #61

For some background, the old wiki was hosted on Fandom. All the major volunteer contributors are moving to minecraft.wiki, but the old page will almost certainly stay up, frozen in time, throwing trackers and ads on kids not savvy enough to locate the new link. It is interesting to me how many games, Minecraft in particular, rely on wikis - they're very different experiences, sometimes almost unplayable, if you don't…

I remember in 2009 or 2010, when I first came across Minecraft. It was not hugely popular yet, but it already had quite an active community. I played quite a few hours of the game, both alone and together with a couple of friends. One day, after a couple of weeks or something, I learned about a crafting wiki that told you how to craft different items. At the time, at least for me, it was not clear how you figure out…

If you want to see an almost entirely unspoilered playthrough of Minecraft, Japanese player PiroPito has a long series of videos on Youtube (with English subtitles):

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbqkLu2V1bJJUQ2aLZjFd...

This series is notable for inspiring the addition of Ruined Portals, as construction of a Nether Portal had no in-game hints at the time, and was the only thing he needed a spoiler to figure out.

Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

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Post by iamacyborg »

eterm wrote: post #170
iamacyborg wrote: post #169

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The biggest reason was simply that we were being penalised for having duplicate content, which Google are able to detect. We definitely over index on content added post-fork, which makes sense given that we're not competing with Fandom for those searches. According to Google Search console, in the last 3 months we've had 32.9M impressions and 4.39M clicks, which is nothing to sniff at.

Are there any headers added by the extension so you can detect natural vs redirected traffic?

I don't believe so, we never implemented client or server side tracking on the wiki though so it's not like we'd look at it anyway.

Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

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Post by apocalyptic0n3 »

iamacyborg wrote: post #162
pie_flavor wrote: post #147

Hallelujah. Fandom I think is the single most unusable site I have any reason to visit; every time there's a Show HN about a service to 'simplify' a webpage, Fandom is the site I test it on. A history recap for those who do not know: 2013: Minecraft Wiki migrates from a self-hosted solution to Gamepedia run by Curse. This was a good decision at the time, because Curse was pretty trusted in the community; Minecraft mo…

2022: Former Curse/Gamepedia execs create wiki.gg and start poaching wikis from Fandom as a cheap vehicle to expose those audiences to ads of their new videogame publishing company.

Satisfactory recently migrated theirs from Fandom to wiki.gg and the improvement was night and day. Same exact content, but instantly it was way easier to use.

Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

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Post by digging »

bpiche wrote: post #102
yoyohello13 wrote: post #95

UESP is the gold standard for wikis. https://uesp.net/wiki/Main_Page

Bethesda enjoyers are blessed with this wonderful wiki. And action RPG fans have fextralife - another solid gold standard for wikis. It's a great time to be a fan. https://fextralife.com/

I never thought I'd see fextralife called a gold standard. It's also quite bad... better than "Fandom" though I guess.

For example, Bloodborne has a "Fandom", a fextralife, and an actual high-quality wiki at https://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/

Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

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Post by p0w3n3d »

I have a low end to play Minecraft, hence I could choose either play or browse fandom (Linux, Firefox) because fandom so much slowed down it. However other sites seem okay. So in this way I'm glad the Minecraft wiki is faster now. Need to check the performance. However the money does not come from the sky. I understand you have to have ads on your site to haven't it funded and I wonder who funds minecraft.wiki

Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

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Post by iamacyborg »

apocalyptic0n3 wrote: post #176
iamacyborg wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

2022: Former Curse/Gamepedia execs create wiki.gg and start poaching wikis from Fandom as a cheap vehicle to expose those audiences to ads of their new videogame publishing company.

Satisfactory recently migrated theirs from Fandom to wiki.gg and the improvement was night and day. Same exact content, but instantly it was way easier to use.

It's for sure a big improvement from Fandom and the fact that they have a commercial interest in running the farm means it should continue to see good support.
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