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Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

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Yeah I really don't "get" fandom. It's an extremely steep price to pay for free hosting and config!

One big, big benefit is they handle account creation & anti-spam. Anti-spam is the hardest part of hosting, it's a serious problem and time-sink.

I hosted the Path of Exile wiki for a while and account creation and anti-spam wasn't overly arduous.

Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

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Hallelujah. Fandom I think is the single most unusable site I have any reason to visit; every time there's a Show HN about a service to 'simplify' a webpage, Fandom is the site I test it on. A history recap for those who do not know: 2013: Minecraft Wiki migrates from a self-hosted solution to Gamepedia run by Curse. This was a good decision at the time, because Curse was pretty trusted in the community; Minecraft mo…

2022: Former Curse/Gamepedia execs create wiki.gg and start poaching wikis from Fandom as a cheap vehicle to expose those audiences to ads of their new videogame publishing company.

Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

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post #60

Excellent. I hope to see more games following suit away from the bloated messes of fandom/fextralife. At times they feel unusable on mobile. And I don't think a single user has wanted to see the embedded twitch streams when they're just trying to get some information quickly.

That Starfield launched with https://starfieldwiki.net/ from the same people that have been running the (blessedly old school) Unofficial Elder Scrolls Pages (UESP)* has been amazing -- being able to avoid Fandom is a top 10 feature of any game for me at this point.

* https://uesp.net/

Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

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The Path of Exile wiki made a similar move a few years ago. Fandom was such a limitation for the community and the ads and page speed were awful. Now the Minecraft wiki will have to spend effort beating the Fandom site on SEO so that people get directed to the actually updated wiki. For Path of Exile there was a browser extension that would hide the Fandom from search results and redirect you to the new community wik…

Are you thinking of the "Indie Wiki Buddy" extension? They have already added support for the new minecraft wiki: https://getindie.wiki/listings/ It's pretty incredible that Fandom/Fextralife have driven people to developing browser extensions just to avoid everything they touch...

No, there's a Path of Exile wiki specific extension also.

It's slightly counterproductive from an SEO perspective as it redirects Fandom clicks to the new wiki, which gives Fandom all the SEO benefits of receiving those clicks.

Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

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It's probably safer to lower this one's ranking, rather than absolutely block it. There's more than a handful of things for which fandom.com is the correct result—the only actively-maintained wiki. Trust the search engine to do the signal/noise calculations for you. You are no longer on Google. Kagi is your agent, not your adversary.

And while Fandom/Fextralife are both irritating sites, they often are the only way to get a certain bit of knowledge on a topic. They've kind of moved into the niche previously occupied by things like Geocities fansites. They're nasty, ad-riddled experiences, but they DO have the information. Only sites I block on my Kagi are sites that outright trick or lie to the user; keyword content farms, pinterest, and StackOve…

I have fextralife in my lower list. As you say, sometimes it's the only place. But when there are any other places, I want those in front.

Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

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post #60

Excellent. I hope to see more games following suit away from the bloated messes of fandom/fextralife. At times they feel unusable on mobile. And I don't think a single user has wanted to see the embedded twitch streams when they're just trying to get some information quickly.

The Feed The Beast Wiki (https://ftb.fandom.com), a general-purpose modded Minecraft wiki, is also planning to move away in the next month or two.

https://ftb.fandom.com/wiki/Project:CD#Forking_from_Fandom

(n.b. I'm an admin there.)

(n.b. 2, we've collaborated with MCW on several occasions)

Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

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Are you thinking of the "Indie Wiki Buddy" extension? They have already added support for the new minecraft wiki: https://getindie.wiki/listings/ It's pretty incredible that Fandom/Fextralife have driven people to developing browser extensions just to avoid everything they touch...

No, there's a Path of Exile wiki specific extension also. It's slightly counterproductive from an SEO perspective as it redirects Fandom clicks to the new wiki, which gives Fandom all the SEO benefits of receiving those clicks.

Indeed, which is I suspect why fandom still ranked so highly above poewiki for many searches for far too long, and initially even appending poewiki would often return no results or just the fandom result.

Thankfully there's been a notable shift in the past 3-6 months.

What has finally helped I think is the sheer amount of stale or missing data on fandom, so as a really basic current example, it doesn't have mention of tattoos, a fairly critical aspect of the current league.

Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

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I've always wondered why a wiki needs to monetize so hard. Most of their content easily cacheable and produced by volunteers, plus the technology hasn't really changed in 20 years. The whole site could probably be maintained by a single dev and a few admins. It seems natural that these sites are going to eventually be replaced because of this. Maybe I have an incorrect view of the costs/revenue.

> "needs"

What if the monetization is the point, not the content?

Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

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post #167

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No, there's a Path of Exile wiki specific extension also. It's slightly counterproductive from an SEO perspective as it redirects Fandom clicks to the new wiki, which gives Fandom all the SEO benefits of receiving those clicks.

Indeed, which is I suspect why fandom still ranked so highly above poewiki for many searches for far too long, and initially even appending poewiki would often return no results or just the fandom result. Thankfully there's been a notable shift in the past 3-6 months. What has finally helped I think is the sheer amount of stale or missing data on fandom, so as a really basic current example, it doesn't have mention o…

The biggest reason was simply that we were being penalised for having duplicate content, which Google are able to detect.

We definitely over index on content added post-fork, which makes sense given that we're not competing with Fandom for those searches.

According to Google Search console, in the last 3 months we've had 32.9M impressions and 4.39M clicks, which is nothing to sniff at.

Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

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post #167

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Indeed, which is I suspect why fandom still ranked so highly above poewiki for many searches for far too long, and initially even appending poewiki would often return no results or just the fandom result. Thankfully there's been a notable shift in the past 3-6 months. What has finally helped I think is the sheer amount of stale or missing data on fandom, so as a really basic current example, it doesn't have mention o…

The biggest reason was simply that we were being penalised for having duplicate content, which Google are able to detect. We definitely over index on content added post-fork, which makes sense given that we're not competing with Fandom for those searches. According to Google Search console, in the last 3 months we've had 32.9M impressions and 4.39M clicks, which is nothing to sniff at.

Are there any headers added by the extension so you can detect natural vs redirected traffic?
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