If you install Windows a lot, get yourself an answer file for unattended installs (you can generate one oneline). It turns all the clicking and typing into booting the ISO (potentially through Ventoy, which would allow you to pick between answer files), and waiting for the desktop to show up
Install Windows the Arch Linux Way
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Re: Install Windows the Arch Linux Way
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I was honestly suprised that my wireless Logitech mouse with the special Logi dongle worked in the BIOS.
It’s because all the wireless magic is in the dongle. I’m not entirely sure on the details but I think it just looks like a hub with potentially multiple hid attached to the host and bios etc have had rudimentary usb hid support for ages.
Yeah, makes sense if you put it that may. Maybe it's just my PTSD from late 00s wireless stuff, now that was magic.
Re: Install Windows the Arch Linux Way
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It sounds like you're the kind of person who wants a computer that "just works" with user-friendly point/click software out of the box. You're absolutely not the target audience of Arch Linux, nor this "Arch-like" Windows install guide. Personally, I learned more about modern Linux userspace by following the Arch install process (and subsequently maintaining an Arch install for daily-driver use) than I ever did from…
And I did it 2005 with gentoo and scratch... it's unnecessary and you could have learned the same using ubuntu or whatever distro without debugging your system. But you are right as a noob it probably helps to do everything by hand at least once. The most annoying part about Arch is that if you look in forums, reddit or mailinglits a lot of users don't really learn to debug. They fuck up their system and install from…
This is a pretty interesting perspective because my experience of using Arch for a decade is that the Arch forums are a great treasure trove of learning how to troubleshoot a Linux desktop. I also have never seen any prescribed advice of reinstalling from scratch and rather the recommended approach is booting a live image and chrooting into your system to actually fix what's broken when something truly is borked. This is also why there's such a hefty RTFM culture around the distro and avoiding going through the install without actually understanding what you're doing.
Arch has been the most stable desktop system I've ever used, but a lot of that stability comes from understanding exactly what is installed and configured, which is something I personally never got with Ubuntu or other fully configured distros
Re: Install Windows the Arch Linux Way
#134Earlier quoted context omitted.
The Arch install is literally 1. partition your system 2. mount / 3. run 1 command to actually install the system 4. install grub Sure, it's a bit gatekeepy if you haven't done it before, but it teaches you a lot of useful things about how a Linux system works, that you'll undoubtedly need if you plan to use Arch.
Imagine any other consumer product boasting about teaching you things, instead of just do what it means to do. Also am I dumb? Why do I need to be taught these things again and again every damn installation?
You can write your own installer script that will set things up exactly how you want to do it, which many others have done so before, if going through the manual process every installation is tedious.
There's even the (not so official) archinstall script built into the live ISO if you want a guided installation process.
But the core philosophy of the distro is that it targets users with a certain base-level of competence in working with Linux and provides them a simple, close to bleeding-edge distro; so it does do what it means to do.
Re: Install Windows the Arch Linux Way
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Because you're supported to use NTFS, not FAT32. NTFS is the native format. But you don't have to do all that. Use the Media Creation Tool: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows11/ Edit: Or even better, as degenerate comments below, use Rufus, which is what I use.
If you were supposed to use NTFS that's what the Media Creation tool would do. Instead it uses FAT32 and an image with superior compression (ESD). This is because FAT32 is the only required format for UEFI implementations to boot from. Some advanced tools, and I'd recommend looking at Ventoy over Rufus, use an intermediate loader to mitigate that. Others just let you assume the board supports NTFS boot.
Rufus has an intermediate loader. One that's way less picky about what the MBR part is doing than Ventoy.
Re: Install Windows the Arch Linux Way
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I tried installing it too, but oddly enough, it lacked drivers. Linux on the same machine runs flawlessly. I needed it for testing a new piece of software i am working on. I managed to install it after downloading a bunch of extras. Once installed it started downloading updates..and it went on and on and on. It’s such a low quality os it’s hilarious.
It's not a low quality OS in general; they just haven't really optimized the use case of people installing their OS from scratch. Every organisation, commercial or otherwise, has finite resources. And the vast majority of their users would probably prefer they spend those limited resources on fixing things with a higher impact on them.
The people would prefer that microsoft spend it's finite resource turning windows in an ad infested hellscape.
Re: Install Windows the Arch Linux Way
#137This reminds me of a tool I built a number of years ago to do unattended installs of Windows over PXE, for an IT services company I worked for at the time. It completed much faster than using DVDs or thumb drives, and could serve many machines at once.
Re: Install Windows the Arch Linux Way
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Windows 10 and 11 still breaks dual boot, had it happen with me in two different computers. Now I just have different computers with different OSes - had to get a second desk to be able to have all mounted in a way I don't need to swap computer cables.
Have you heard of KVMs?
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