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Text editing on mobile: the invisible problem

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Re: Text editing on mobile: the invisible problem

#102

1000% agree with this post, wow. I can’t believe this is controversial.. it’s a disaster. I dread opening the mobile version of google docs, sheets, or even Notes for anything more than a grocery list. The problem is the target audience for this is business customers, and particularly those in management, so it’s a small market. ICs aren’t up and down as much between meetings and can largely stick to their desktop se…

Are folding phones a solution for managers?

Folding phones are much easier to type on, but not close to a real keyboard.

Re: Text editing on mobile: the invisible problem

#103
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I don't know about IPhone but on Android its simply impossible to Paste text between two words. You can't paste text into cursor position you can only replace selected text with Pasted text. Thats my main biggest issue. Also, why the fuck there no Copy/Paste buttons on mobile keyboard??

You actually can paste between words but it's hidden (like most things with mobile text editing) You need to place the text cursor between the words carefully, tap the 'teardrop' on the text handle, and that will bring up the menu to paste. (not saying that's good!)

Thank you for teaching me this! Not very discoverable!

Re: Text editing on mobile: the invisible problem

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post #86

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You actually can paste between words but it's hidden (like most things with mobile text editing) You need to place the text cursor between the words carefully, tap the 'teardrop' on the text handle, and that will bring up the menu to paste. (not saying that's good!)

Which is to say you can't as several of those actions are impossible for humans to do with enough accuracy.

Holding the spacebar makes moving to the correct location possible. Not easy, but possible.

Edit: Ah, but then the teardrop goes away.

So I guess not really a solution. Sorry.

Re: Text editing on mobile: the invisible problem

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> no undo It works fine, you just need a keyboard what would allow you to send Ctrl+Z. Yes, there should be a menu item (at least in a pop-up) too... BTW, there is a API to add your things to that pop-up (like for searching providers etc) so there is a chance you can make it.

iOS has "shake to undo", which isn't perfect, but at least it's something.

It’s clunky, you look utterly ridiculous whilst doing it, but it is occasionally very useful. I’ve found that the UI gets better about putting undo arrows everywhere, though. But then even that is not really elegant.

Re: Text editing on mobile: the invisible problem

#106

1000% agree with this post, wow. I can’t believe this is controversial.. it’s a disaster. I dread opening the mobile version of google docs, sheets, or even Notes for anything more than a grocery list. The problem is the target audience for this is business customers, and particularly those in management, so it’s a small market. ICs aren’t up and down as much between meetings and can largely stick to their desktop se…

> business customers, and particularly those in management, so it’s a small market

Is it really that small? It sounds like a massive market to me.

Re: Text editing on mobile: the invisible problem

#107

Nothing on mobile is okay. I know everyone loves their smart phones but they really are terrible computers in every way except for portability. Use a computer when you actually want to do things. Smartphones are just for when you're literally unable to use a real computer.

Sliders are okay.

Editing photos in lightroom mobile works fine. Interfaces that are about swiping and sliding - from match 3 games, through tinder, to scrolling feeds - are very responsive.

Re: Text editing on mobile: the invisible problem

#108

My takeaway is tacit irritation at the size of the screen. If it were larger then it would be easier to position a cursor and edit a word. With a keyboard and mouse, of course, it would be very easy. Our fingers are pretty large compared to smartphone screens, and regrettably that can only be helped with a stylus you'll lose.

Could have a track pad on the back of the phone

most people use phone cases

Re: Text editing on mobile: the invisible problem

#109

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Doesn’t this still exist? You Force Touch the space bar and get a cursor

It used to be pressure sensitive, which made it much faster to respond. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Force_Touch > Haptic Touch is a feature on the iPhone XR (but not the iPhone XS) and later iPhone models replacing 3D Touch. The touchscreen, which no longer has a pressure sensitive layer, distinguishes between a tap and a long-press using a timed delay to activate certain 3D Touch features (only ones for elements t…

As of this week, they made it fast again.

Re: Text editing on mobile: the invisible problem

#110
post #69

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I don't know about IPhone but on Android its simply impossible to Paste text between two words. You can't paste text into cursor position you can only replace selected text with Pasted text. Thats my main biggest issue. Also, why the fuck there no Copy/Paste buttons on mobile keyboard??

You actually can paste between words but it's hidden (like most things with mobile text editing) You need to place the text cursor between the words carefully, tap the 'teardrop' on the text handle, and that will bring up the menu to paste. (not saying that's good!)

Just tried this. I find tapping to bring up the teardrop sometimes changes the cursor position.

It's quite unfortunate the paste button is not always shown when editing. At least the teardrop (if not an edit bar) should be shown when using long press spacebar to move the cursor.

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