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The strange disappearance of Mrs Agatha Christie (2022)

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> Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, who was a keen spiritualist, even consulted a medium to attempt to solve the mystery of her disappearance. This bit was the most surprising part of the article for me, given the themes of science and materialism in Sherlock Holmes books. Looking a bit into it, Doyle really seems to have been into Spiritualism for some bizarre reason [0]. [0] https://arthurconandoyle.co.uk/spiritualist

At that time "mesmerism" was sold as possible new branch of science that will properly explain after life, ghost, etc. without religion. Obviously was a reboot/remake/remix "product" perfectly crafted for a new public as sceptics like Sir Conan Doyle.

Maybe, but the chronology is a little off--Franz Anton Mesmer (1734-1815) famous for mesmerism (hypnosis).

Re: The strange disappearance of Mrs Agatha Christie (2022)

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The 'fugue state' seems very unlikely to me. I'd guess that Agatha had some plot against her husband, and then used that as an excuse when things didn't go as planned. What the plot was though, I have no idea. It looks like she was framing him for her murder, but that would involve her going missing permanently. Which is both a big sacrifice and very hard to pull off when you are Agatha Christie.

Imho it looks more like a "look how easy it would be for me to kill myself, if you don't stop seeing that little whore".

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> The written answer from the Home Secretary was that ‘No members of the Metropolitan Police were specially detailed for the purpose, and no cost was incurred by the Metropolitan Police …’ Then > Agatha’s husband, Archie Christie, responded to enquiries about his wife’s state of mind by explaining that she was suffering from a nervous disorder and memory loss. The police approached him to request a contribution towar…

England has no national police force. The Metropolitan Police operate only in London (hence the name.) Christie disappeared in Surrey, which had (and has) its own territorial force, the Surrey Police. Note in particular the concern was that multiple forces had been involved in the search i.e. more than just the Surrey Police, and therefore the concern that London police resources had been spent unnecessarily in the s…

> The Metropolitan Police operate only in London (hence the name.)

Which are also known as Scotland Yard, so you don’t get to claim there’s some dependable relationship between names and jurisdiction :-p

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> Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, who was a keen spiritualist, even consulted a medium to attempt to solve the mystery of her disappearance. This bit was the most surprising part of the article for me, given the themes of science and materialism in Sherlock Holmes books. Looking a bit into it, Doyle really seems to have been into Spiritualism for some bizarre reason [0]. [0] https://arthurconandoyle.co.uk/spiritualist

At that time "mesmerism" was sold as possible new branch of science that will properly explain after life, ghost, etc. without religion. Obviously was a reboot/remake/remix "product" perfectly crafted for a new public as sceptics like Sir Conan Doyle.

It's easy in hindsight to see these types of things as being ridiculous and obviously bunk. We do have the equivalents today, although YMMV on what you think is the modern day "mesmerism".

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Hah, that marriage certificate. the condition column. bachelor is fair enough(man who never married) but spinster(woman who never married?) nowadays the terms, especially spinster, have a sort of connotation with age. 24 is not that old but would younger people(18-20) have a different condition. and now I am curious what other "conditions" there are. my guess. widow/er divorced(are there archaic gender specific terms…

Divorcé / divorcée, perhaps?

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Well Newton was seriously into alchemy so you never can tell.

From a scientific standpoint, nuclear fission is pretty much alchemy, right? I feel like we use the term to dismiss quacks, but changing one element into another is literally something we now know how to do. Lead (atomic number 82) isn’t even that far from gold (atomic number 79).

Alchemy, by virtue of association with hermeticism, gets an unnecessarily bad reputation. We know it to be mostly false today, but it really did help develop chemistry.

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> Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, who was a keen spiritualist, even consulted a medium to attempt to solve the mystery of her disappearance. This bit was the most surprising part of the article for me, given the themes of science and materialism in Sherlock Holmes books. Looking a bit into it, Doyle really seems to have been into Spiritualism for some bizarre reason [0]. [0] https://arthurconandoyle.co.uk/spiritualist

Even more interesting is the fact that he and Harry Houdini were friends, but they were split over the life after death question. Houdini was sick of all the charlatans, and made the focus of his life’s work in his final years to prove them wrong. It obviously created a wedge between them. Houdini by that time was a megastar. He was easily the most famous person in the western world for about a generation. His fame d…

Was he more famous than Chaplin?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well Newton was seriously into alchemy so you never can tell.

From a scientific standpoint, nuclear fission is pretty much alchemy, right? I feel like we use the term to dismiss quacks, but changing one element into another is literally something we now know how to do. Lead (atomic number 82) isn’t even that far from gold (atomic number 79).

We live in an age of technical marvel but the goalposts have constantly shifted so nothing feels amazing anymore.

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> Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, who was a keen spiritualist, even consulted a medium to attempt to solve the mystery of her disappearance. This bit was the most surprising part of the article for me, given the themes of science and materialism in Sherlock Holmes books. Looking a bit into it, Doyle really seems to have been into Spiritualism for some bizarre reason [0]. [0] https://arthurconandoyle.co.uk/spiritualist

A bit like CS Lewis and Tolkien. Lewis is the one you’d expect to be religious based ont heir popular works, but nope.
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