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The strange disappearance of Mrs Agatha Christie (2022)

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> Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, who was a keen spiritualist, even consulted a medium to attempt to solve the mystery of her disappearance. This bit was the most surprising part of the article for me, given the themes of science and materialism in Sherlock Holmes books. Looking a bit into it, Doyle really seems to have been into Spiritualism for some bizarre reason [0]. [0] https://arthurconandoyle.co.uk/spiritualist

Well Newton was seriously into alchemy so you never can tell.

chemistry is harder than physics

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Newlands Corner sits at the top of a pretty steep hill by UK countryside standards, so it's not that unlikely that a 1920s car would have struggled around there. I just cycled up that hill earlier today and it wasn't fun. There are a few photos around [0] from the original incident. However, the whole thing is fairly universally assumed to have been a publicity stunt. This is a fairly well known story locally. Here's…

Bit silly as a publicity stunt, I'd think. But presumably that photo was taken after her car had been recovered, because the incident report describes it being piled nose-first into undergrowth not evident here. That suggests the accident started with a loss of control - which, at night on an unlit road in a century-old deathtrap like that one, wouldn't just be easy to do but likely quite hard to avoid.

I've been in enough car wrecks, and those in modern cars, for it to strike me as arrantly foolish no one ever seems to consider the possibility she got her bell rung. Even an airbag will do that sometimes - I've had two of those go off in my face, and one of them did exactly that; it's more than anything else like taking a hard, well-aimed punch, and even if it does save you ending up with much worse, you still are liable not to be thinking right for a while after. And that's with a hundred years of safety engineering! Christie's car wouldn't even have had seatbelts or safety glass - it's got to be at least half a miracle she made it out alive.

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Quite the story! I never heard about this before, and I’m a huge fan (admittedly that’s fan of the books though, rather than the author herself). The story/novel mentioned in the article (The Murder of Roger Ackroyd) is famous in literary circles for $reasons - if you haven’t read it and you enjoy reading that sort of book, you’re missing out! (It does look like she staged a murder scene from her books intending to f…

> It does look like she staged a murder scene from her books intending to frame her husband then came to her senses, doesn’t it?

Sure, if that's what you want to see. Or if the tabloid journalists of the day, who even by contemporary standards behaved themselves professionally with serene disregard for anything resembling honesty or morality, think it'll sell more papers to make it look like that.

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> Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, who was a keen spiritualist, even consulted a medium to attempt to solve the mystery of her disappearance. This bit was the most surprising part of the article for me, given the themes of science and materialism in Sherlock Holmes books. Looking a bit into it, Doyle really seems to have been into Spiritualism for some bizarre reason [0]. [0] https://arthurconandoyle.co.uk/spiritualist

Even more interesting is the fact that he and Harry Houdini were friends, but they were split over the life after death question. Houdini was sick of all the charlatans, and made the focus of his life’s work in his final years to prove them wrong. It obviously created a wedge between them.

Houdini by that time was a megastar. He was easily the most famous person in the western world for about a generation. His fame dwarfed that of people like Doyle, Agatha Christie, or Oscar Wilde.

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> Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, who was a keen spiritualist, even consulted a medium to attempt to solve the mystery of her disappearance. This bit was the most surprising part of the article for me, given the themes of science and materialism in Sherlock Holmes books. Looking a bit into it, Doyle really seems to have been into Spiritualism for some bizarre reason [0]. [0] https://arthurconandoyle.co.uk/spiritualist

Conan Doyle was into a lot of pseudoscientific stuff and it runs through his Holmes stories. He didn't think of it as "pseudo-" at all so just presented it as run of the mill science, like the hoary "10% of your brain" nonsense. Holmes' "reasoning" processes were often pretty dubious too.

I read those stories as a kid (we had a huge single volume for some reason) and tried to figure out how to emulate Holmes' thinkings so I could be as smart as him (and not be the hapless Watson). That resulted in quite a bit of time in the library chasing things down which caused me to learn that things in books aren't always true and that adults were often idiots. So I can't say that reading Sherloc Holmes stories were bad for me, but the process destroyed any interest I had in anything Holmes related.

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> Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, who was a keen spiritualist, even consulted a medium to attempt to solve the mystery of her disappearance. This bit was the most surprising part of the article for me, given the themes of science and materialism in Sherlock Holmes books. Looking a bit into it, Doyle really seems to have been into Spiritualism for some bizarre reason [0]. [0] https://arthurconandoyle.co.uk/spiritualist

A lot of people speculate it had something to do with his son's death.

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> Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, who was a keen spiritualist, even consulted a medium to attempt to solve the mystery of her disappearance. This bit was the most surprising part of the article for me, given the themes of science and materialism in Sherlock Holmes books. Looking a bit into it, Doyle really seems to have been into Spiritualism for some bizarre reason [0]. [0] https://arthurconandoyle.co.uk/spiritualist

have been into Spiritualism for some bizarre reason Most religions have afterlifes, and that implies some kind of spiritualism. And a mere 50+ years ago, Christianity was almost universally accepted in the West.

Spiritualism is a specific movement which all major branches of Christianity and most other major world religions reject.

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> Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, who was a keen spiritualist, even consulted a medium to attempt to solve the mystery of her disappearance. This bit was the most surprising part of the article for me, given the themes of science and materialism in Sherlock Holmes books. Looking a bit into it, Doyle really seems to have been into Spiritualism for some bizarre reason [0]. [0] https://arthurconandoyle.co.uk/spiritualist

Conan Doyle was into a lot of pseudoscientific stuff and it runs through his Holmes stories. He didn't think of it as "pseudo-" at all so just presented it as run of the mill science, like the hoary "10% of your brain" nonsense. Holmes' "reasoning" processes were often pretty dubious too. I read those stories as a kid (we had a huge single volume for some reason) and tried to figure out how to emulate Holmes' thinkin…

Really? Most of the stories are well done even if not every bit of his "ratiocination" holds up. I feel like one can enjoy them for what they are without trying to take them as real-life forensic science.

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Hah, that marriage certificate. the condition column.

bachelor is fair enough(man who never married)

but spinster(woman who never married?)

nowadays the terms, especially spinster, have a sort of connotation with age. 24 is not that old but would younger people(18-20) have a different condition.

and now I am curious what other "conditions" there are. my guess.

  widow/er
  divorced(are there archaic gender specific terms for this?)
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