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Suppressing negative thoughts may be good for mental health after all

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Re: Suppressing negative thoughts may be good for mental health after all

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For a few years after the death of my baby daughter, I’d relive the events of that day pretty regularly, looking for some kind of meaning, pattern, lesson to be learned maybe. I’d also continually wonder what she’d be like now she was 3, 4 years old, etc. This was making me incredibly sad. Eventually, I just had to forget that day, forget her, stop thinking about what her life would have been like, and get on with en…

Focusing on present moment is a very powerful tool and I’m glad you discovered it. Your daughter would want you to be happy. Best wishes to you and your family.

Re: Suppressing negative thoughts may be good for mental health after all

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That’s the literal definition of credibility firstly, and secondly if 120 people and covid were properly controlled for, neither of these facts invalidates the study. You can find statistically valid conclusions from 120 people, for sure. Just read the damn paper, rather than presume it’s credible or dismiss it because they couldn’t run it on 100,000 people over the course of 30 years.

You're telling me to read a paper you haven't read yourself? COVID was not controlled for. A three month study says nothing about mental health which is intrinsically long-term: this decides to observe short-term effects. I am not even satisfied with the very definition of 'negative thoughts' which at least should fall under multiple categories and studied differently.

Cool; briefly, can you describe your credentials? Why should anyone care what you think about this study?

Re: Suppressing negative thoughts may be good for mental health after all

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I wonder if the "someone who sees the truth of the world is more likely to be clinically depressed" is related to seeing a truth and not expressing it. Lately I've really been starting to wonder if depression is the opposite of expression. Or in other words, instead of pushing feelings/thoughts out (ex-press), we push them down (de-press). I can say from my experience when I feel very confident that I see what's happ…

No it's not specifically about what you're talking about. People are literally being delusional here. There's a ton science behind this phenomenon. You can listen to that podcast it's quite interesting. Basically they can do quantitative experiments where they have groups of people rate others about how attractive they are 1-10 and through this gather an average rating about someones attractiveness. Then they have th…

Ah, I'll check out the podcast as it seems counterintuitive to me and therefore I might learn something, thanks!

Re: Suppressing negative thoughts may be good for mental health after all

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The trouble with suppressing negative thoughts in the long run is that, eventually, reality may force you to confront them all at once and under far more difficult conditions. I'm a strong believer that you have to confront negative thoughts and resolve underlying issues as soon as they arise and not neglect them and tell yourself that everything is going to be OK. It's not going to be OK. Murphy's law; what can go w…

A negative thought is just a thought, it's not like you need to actively not take care of real life things or errands. But if you find yourself thinking about death, or about how much your childhood sucked, or that you're good for nothing, you don't need to address anything about those thoughts. The least time you spend on them the better, nothing good comes from dwelling. I can't understand people that want to re-li…

Many things can also be framed so they’re not negative. Take your parents dying, for example. Everyone has finite time on this Earth. The relationships we choose to cultivate in our short existence are part of what make life beautiful. A life well lived can be something celebrate not mourn. Similarly, hardships in childhood can be something to decry and lament. Or they can be viewed as a the crucible in which your steely mettle was forged. How you think about these things is likely a reflection about how you feel about yourself.

Re: Suppressing negative thoughts may be good for mental health after all

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I suppose it wouldn't be that surprising. Mindfulness for instance teaches you to "let go" of thoughts - which is really just a gentle form of suppression. CBT encourages you to redirect existing negative thoughts in a positive/constructive direction - ultimately steering you away from or undermining the original negative thought - but does not encourage you to do a deep dive on it. Not to mention that Freud was a qu…

The trouble with suppressing negative thoughts in the long run is that, eventually, reality may force you to confront them all at once and under far more difficult conditions. I'm a strong believer that you have to confront negative thoughts and resolve underlying issues as soon as they arise and not neglect them and tell yourself that everything is going to be OK. It's not going to be OK. Murphy's law; what can go w…

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Re: Suppressing negative thoughts may be good for mental health after all

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You're telling me to read a paper you haven't read yourself? COVID was not controlled for. A three month study says nothing about mental health which is intrinsically long-term: this decides to observe short-term effects. I am not even satisfied with the very definition of 'negative thoughts' which at least should fall under multiple categories and studied differently.

Cool; briefly, can you describe your credentials? Why should anyone care what you think about this study?

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Re: Suppressing negative thoughts may be good for mental health after all

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Thanks for the feedback. I think this boils down to your ability to determine what is beneficial to revisit and what isnt. I would argue if you are able to differentiate the two reliably and are further able to tell that >There's nothing further for me to learn from the situation its unlikely that you are suppressing anything. To be at that point you have to had dealt with it already and are just not getting hung up…

For sure. That is how I would generally use "suppress," I think that's the common conception, but the article seems to be using it more in the sense of shrugging something off; they're asking participants to refrain from imagining certain scenarios while presenting them with stressors. I agree about language and it's been my experience that many disagreements boil down to using different definitions for the same term…

I have been thinking about something similar. I think its usability will drastically improve once you are able to find overlaps and differences in meaning between the perspectives of different people/ideas. I would also suspect that it would be uncommon to not at least fall back on some ingroup definitions, even just for practical reasons. After all, it will likely be rare to learn new vocabulary for individual people. Focusing on overlaps and differences together with some kind of color coding should reduce the usage hurdle further.

However, i think the topic overlaps with (outer) alignment. Even if its just so you have a shared reference point (goals) from which you can make sense of meaning. If you dont every dictionary entry will need to stand on its own with information overload likely showing up fast. A minimum approach should further help to prevent trying to build another babel tower.

Re: Suppressing negative thoughts may be good for mental health after all

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Religion isn’t a solo act.

Indeed, Zoroaster has really been dropping the ball in matters regarding sorghum. :-(

Enough already, it's 2023 and I feel like having to maintain legacy sorghum support is just holding religion back. I say drop it out right and focus your prayers on quinoa.

Re: Suppressing negative thoughts may be good for mental health after all

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You're telling me to read a paper you haven't read yourself? COVID was not controlled for. A three month study says nothing about mental health which is intrinsically long-term: this decides to observe short-term effects. I am not even satisfied with the very definition of 'negative thoughts' which at least should fall under multiple categories and studied differently.

Cool; briefly, can you describe your credentials? Why should anyone care what you think about this study?

If you don't care what I state about a particular study within the sphere of the replication crisis, I suggest you to fast forward instead of appealing to authority. Notice that I never asserted a position on either side of this "thought suppression" practice, I have no extrinsic incentives.

Re: Suppressing negative thoughts may be good for mental health after all

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For a few years after the death of my baby daughter, I’d relive the events of that day pretty regularly, looking for some kind of meaning, pattern, lesson to be learned maybe. I’d also continually wonder what she’d be like now she was 3, 4 years old, etc. This was making me incredibly sad. Eventually, I just had to forget that day, forget her, stop thinking about what her life would have been like, and get on with en…

I am so sorry for your loss. I am glad to hear you are healing in your own way though.

I'll make sure to hug my own extra hard tonight.

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