I think using Kagi was the first time I've ever encountered an "instant switch" moment for a product I've been using for over a decade. I never realized just how much useless SEO garbage was being flung in my face using Google until I used Kagi. Of course there's the measurable added productivity of finding what I need faster, but it's also a qualitative difference in that I don't kind myself glossing over half the page avoiding ads and useless links.
Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month
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Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month
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> This is a company, not a charity. By this logic they should increase their prices to $1,000,000/mo. They are not a charity, right? Why would they sell it for a measly $10? The point is, pricing is adjusted to maximise profitability. If lowering the price for a specific market increases your profitability, you would go for it. There is a sweet spot, but it is not the same for every customer. You need segmentation to…
Keep in mind that executing the searches has a cost for Kagi. I remember I could see my usage which was about 700 searches per month and which costed ~8$ I think. My subscription was 10$ so 2$ would go to pay their devs and to R&D. So they can't really go lower then 10$ for specific markets.
Fair point, but their own estimate is about 300 searches for the average user. You are probably not an average user.
Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month
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If you get zero results, you'd probably see the mistake prettty fast, right? I imagine most often (like 90%+ of cases) when one searches for phrases they would be a result of copy-pasting from another source, so handling this case in a special way would just not be worth the effort.
What's up with the extreme estimats? And if you get 100s results instead of 0? And what if it's not 90%, but 50%? It's definitely wrong for me, I most often use it to exclude irrelevant results, and I'd imagine it's also wrong in general case for such a targeted search engine The "effort" is using the same typo detection algorithm you use for non-quoted search to display the same warning Also the benefit of a warning…
> The "effort" is using the same typo detection algorithm you use for non-quoted search to display the same warning
If you were a paying customer you could submit this idea in the forums and someone will actually look into it. I have sent in a few ideas and I think most have been accepted and fixed/implemented within a few weeks.
Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month
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> it's easy to click "block this domain" Friendly reminder that google had this feature a decade ago then removed it. Hopefully someone in the C-Suite got a few back pats for that decision. https://searchengineland.com/google-brings-back-blocking-sit...
Google's gotta make money off Pinterest somehow, based on the most blocked domains on Kagi: https://kagi.com/stats Pinterest is a scourge on the modern web, worse than any other.
I don't understand why people hate Pinterest in image search results. If the image is relevant to my search then I don't care who's hosting it. Can somebody explain to me what the problem is here? https://0x0.st/HO57.webm
(I don't have a pinterest account, if that makes a difference.)
Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month
#845Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month
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In my experience it's not that there's better quality results found, but rather low quality results are skipped. There's a lot filtered by default + it's easy to click "block this domain" when you run into yet another stackoverflow copy. It means that when you're searching for code related things, you often get small relevant blogs in position 3+ rather than SEO spam. For example searching for "current time on JavaSc…
The fact that Kagi has a blocklist tells me their algo isn’t any superior. The best kind of search engine is the kind that can read your mind (by inferring your intention or something)
Why stop there? The best mind-reading search engine is one that doesn't even let me type queries, it tells me what I need to know before I even know I need to know it. The fact that all search engines still have query fields tells me they all still suck at reading my mind.
Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month
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What I don’t get is how many people are looking for stackoverflow answers while a)not aware of so copycats and b)not running adblockers
Adblockers are not a defense against this, as those results are genuine search results. I run uBlock origin (of course), am extremely aware that geeksforgeeks exist and is utter shit, and yet I get fooled now and again, which makes me very angry at that website, Google, myself, and the world in general...
But to make money those sites have to show ads
Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month
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SEO also has the purpose to rank your website high so that you can sell your products. A huge part of the internet has nothing to do with ads, but businesses selling their products and services
Boss of wonderful search site seems to be unaware?
Unlike Google who has incentives to promote the spam Kagi has incentives to fight the spam.
Also Kagi lets me blacklist domains myself if I want stricter rules than Kagi already provide.
Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month
#849I tried out Kagi the other month. I went back to brave search. The killer brave search for feature for me is the goggles. You can even create your own goggle and narrow down searches to whatever you want. I wish Kagi supported that as well.
Are you familiar with Kagi Lenses? https://help.kagi.com/kagi/features/lenses.html
> Up to 10 includes websites
With goggles, you can build and maintain custom lists of _thousands_ on github.
Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month
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So if the feds stop by you have nothing to hand over. That sounds great, but legally dubious. Aren't you required to keep a log? Thanks for the info nonetheless. I think I'll give it a shot and maybe don't look up how to get rid of bodies - for a friend. Oh, damn, did it again.
IANAL nor close to it but is there any legal requirement in the US to keep logs avoid user activity besides access logs? I'd be surprised that the US federal law forces you to keep a full activity log so that they can take a look later for some reason.
Does it matter if it's a law? One day a national security letter from some three letter agency shows up at your doorstep, requiring you to keep logs (or let their engineer install a room 641A), and forbidding you from saying you do.