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Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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None of what you said is true. Use gnome and a popular distribution. Everything will just work out of the box.

With popOS maybe, but I would never hand Ubuntu Desktop to a non-dev. I can't remember the last time where it properly installed (including getting NVIDIA drivers working) without using the terminal.

Ubuntu installed just fine for me. Broke on update, though

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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This is a company, not a charity.

> This is a company, not a charity. By this logic they should increase their prices to $1,000,000/mo. They are not a charity, right? Why would they sell it for a measly $10? The point is, pricing is adjusted to maximise profitability. If lowering the price for a specific market increases your profitability, you would go for it. There is a sweet spot, but it is not the same for every customer. You need segmentation to…

Keep in mind that executing the searches has a cost for Kagi.

I remember I could see my usage which was about 700 searches per month and which costed ~8$ I think. My subscription was 10$ so 2$ would go to pay their devs and to R&D. So they can't really go lower then 10$ for specific markets.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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> it's easy to click "block this domain" Friendly reminder that google had this feature a decade ago then removed it. Hopefully someone in the C-Suite got a few back pats for that decision. https://searchengineland.com/google-brings-back-blocking-sit...

Google's gotta make money off Pinterest somehow, based on the most blocked domains on Kagi: https://kagi.com/stats Pinterest is a scourge on the modern web, worse than any other.

I’d argue that Google is worse than Pinterest. We got here due to Google.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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I wonder if adblockers have contributed to this. In theory we users can reward non-horrible advertisers by whitelisting their ads, but in practice we tend to block as much as possible. The remaining ad-viewing audience will be partly composed of people who are ethically opposed to adblocking or are held back by a lack of tech knowledge, but it will also be relatively insensitive to ads (both in the sense of being abl…

> ethically opposed to adblocking How can you be ethically opposed to something that ruins your experience? It’s obviously their choice, I just can’t imaging browsing without adblock, I’m ethically opposed to the pages filled with crap I guess.

Those who go through the effort to make good web content, and who pay the costs for a web server deserve to be paid. So ethically I should not block ads.

I block them anyway because ads also have an ethical contract with me that they have broken. They need to not take up too many resources on my computer, not make noise when the website otherwise has no noise content, not install malware, and be for legitimate products not scams. Probably more as well, but the above are things I regularly caught ads doing before I got an ad blocker.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Google's gotta make money off Pinterest somehow, based on the most blocked domains on Kagi: https://kagi.com/stats Pinterest is a scourge on the modern web, worse than any other.

Might these stats be biased by the demographics that use Kagi? I don't use Pinterest, and never really encounter it on a daily basis, but some of my friends really like the site. Tbf, they might use stackoverflow more, but seeing Hacker News on the top 5 doesn't seem to reflect the average web user's usage...

> Might these stats be biased by the demographics that use Kagi?

yes, obviously.

but also: Selection Bias Is A Fact Of Life

https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/selection-bias-is-a-fact-of...

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Happy customer here. Kagi is by far the best search engine there is. When I first started using Kagi a year ago or so, I compared results with Google every now and then. Now? Never. 10 bucks a month for a tool that I use multiple times every single day is more than reasonable. The results hit home virtually every time. There are variety of features to customize your searches but truthfully, I never found the need for…

I am giving it another shot. First thing I've noticed is the lack of localisation with results.

If I search for "Elac 6.2 speakers amazon" it comes up with a .com link. I have to search for "Elac 6.2 speakers amazon uk" for it to go to .co.uk.

This was an option with Google that I liked.

*Weirdly now if I search for "elac debut 6.2 amazon" it comes up with a UK link :S

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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In my experience it's not that there's better quality results found, but rather low quality results are skipped. There's a lot filtered by default + it's easy to click "block this domain" when you run into yet another stackoverflow copy. It means that when you're searching for code related things, you often get small relevant blogs in position 3+ rather than SEO spam. For example searching for "current time on JavaSc…

> when you run into yet another stackoverflow copy OMG. Why doesn't Google filter out the likes of geeksforgeeks for instance? How is it possible that it always come before the genuine SO answer? Even without offering the possibility to filter out a domain (which they had, and later removed), how does the ranking algorithm not see those horrible, zero value clones??

These sites exist precisely _because_ of their expertise in the toxic race-to-the-bottom SEO/SEM game that Google created.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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I wish I'd been able to get the pihole to work as easily as it sounded. It looked cool. But it was incompatible with the router from the ISP I had at the time, and rather than also buy and setup a new router, I just packed it away. Now I have a new ISP with a different router, and I'm sure it's incompatible too. But at least it only takes 30 seconds to install ublock origin, and no extra hardware.

You should really consider getting a proper router like Unifi or the like. It's a one time cost and it will save you from these issues no matter what ISP supplied crap you end up getting. Just plug whatever ISP router directly into your own, more capable, router and your home network will look identical, no matter where you move to or how many times you change ISP. That said, running Pi-hole on a Raspberry pi is a tr…

I used a EdgeRouter and it was amazing, though a little-hair raising as a complete rookie.

The Unifi line solves this, and while it has some rough edges, it is so great. 9/10.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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> it's easy to click "block this domain" Friendly reminder that google had this feature a decade ago then removed it. Hopefully someone in the C-Suite got a few back pats for that decision. https://searchengineland.com/google-brings-back-blocking-sit...

Google's gotta make money off Pinterest somehow, based on the most blocked domains on Kagi: https://kagi.com/stats Pinterest is a scourge on the modern web, worse than any other.

It's telling that the top sites on that list accurately map to companies that have been the most "successful" at blitzing the incentive structures of the current internet economics model.
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