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Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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it's kind of upsetting that the first to benefit from LLMs are the scum of the internet.

It's googles fault. They are the ones who make this a viable business model. They pay the ads, and they pollute their search results with this garbage. 100% Google who are destroying this part of the internet.

Google gave and google took

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

#712
post #276

At launch, if I remember correctly, Kagi relied on the Google Search API. The poor economics of that decision were a big part of why it was so expensive. Has that changed?

According to their documentation they still relied on Google for search, mixed in with results for other source, like Wikipedia, Marginalia and others (https://help.kagi.com/kagi/search-details/search-sources.htm...).

It seems a little weird that there would be searches where users fallback on a Google search, when Kagi fails... Shouldn't Kagi get those same results?

There's also some double standards at play. On every article on DuckDuckGo you'll have people comment: "It's just Bing". Well, if that's the case, then Kagi is just Google. Basically the two search engines do the same thing, but with different business models, and with different levels of success.

Personally I feel like Google and Bing are on par. Bing has improved a lot, and Google simply hasn't.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Fair enough. Sell in bulk but have some minimum credits per month requirement. More or less, use'em or lose'em. Not super painful, they are paying customers :) But enough to keep it fair to the vendor. This way there's a path to paying for those who don't want or need a monthly unlimited subscription.

I really liked the suggestion from somewhere else on this topic of paying a set fee for an amount of credits to be charged against. When the balance gets low, allow them to re-up. Of course, there shouldn't be some BS type of expiration date like food products or airline miles. Pay as you go type of plans. In that way, you are paying for exactly what you use, and not just donating each month like it's a charity.

In this case expiring is not the same as airline miles. The product doesn't run itself. If you only want to use your credits on the odd numbers months and you expect it to be there and ready, well it still has to be there and maintained on the even numbered months.

I guess you can bake that into the credits price. But if you say, purchased 100 credits today and don't use it for a year...well, who is paying for that year? Adding a small monthly fee, oddly enough, keeps the customer engaged.

Airline miles are a perk.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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post #548

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Feels like I'm paying to do someone elses job.

Well, your alternative is that the job doesn't get done, for free.

> Well, your alternative is that the job doesn't get done, for free.

You can do it with uBlacklist [1]. See also [2].

[1]: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ublacklist/pncfbmi...

[2]: https://github.com/rjaus/awesome-ublacklist

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Three years ago, I migrated from Gmail to FastMail because I was afraid of losing access to my digital life on Google's whim. Two years ago, I found out that my favorite Youtube creators were all on Nebula. One year ago, I switched my phone to LineageOS to get security updates a little longer. A month ago, I installed OpenStreetMaps because Google Maps got really bad at showing points-of-interest. And today, Kagi rem…

I would like to de-google but rely on Google Voice which is tied to all my US financial accounts. Very concerned one day they're going to kill the service, and it is somewhat neutered as financial institutions are refusing to communicate with Google Voice numbers (had to cancel my Ally account since it wouldn't do two step to a Google Voice number).

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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post #457

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It’s not when it reboots in the middle of the night while you had open documents and apps, and the OS didn’t save any of that. However, the forced reboots are trivial to disable in Group Policy.

I can't use Group Policy because when I upgraded from Windows 8, it upgraded to Home edition it's Home edition because that's what came with the laptop's Windows 8, it was never an issue on Windows 8 because you could disable stuff on Windows 8 without using Group Policy

There are several ways to safely enable it on home.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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>It feels really nice using products that respect me, as opposed to services that are actively hostile because of advertisers. Hot take, but IMO Windows has far more respect for the user than Linux does. Everything is far more QA'd (and designed to be QA-able) and at least tries to minimise user frustration. There are exceptions to this, like "suggestions" in the Start menu, but outside of this it's designed in a use…

> (Desktop) Linux, on the other hand, seems to be more of an intellectual experiment designed to please the people who are writing it rather than a consumer-focused product Honestly can't tell if you're joking, but I guess yes. Linux is the most stable OS I've ever used. There's a reason most mission critical and online services that require constant uptime run almost exclusively on Linux. Windows used to have a nice…

> Linux is the most stable OS I've ever used. There's a reason most mission critical and online services that require constant uptime run almost exclusively on Linux.

You’re talking about servers, while the comment you’re responding to is about desktop usage.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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post #451

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Google's gotta make money off Pinterest somehow, based on the most blocked domains on Kagi: https://kagi.com/stats Pinterest is a scourge on the modern web, worse than any other.

Might these stats be biased by the demographics that use Kagi? I don't use Pinterest, and never really encounter it on a daily basis, but some of my friends really like the site. Tbf, they might use stackoverflow more, but seeing Hacker News on the top 5 doesn't seem to reflect the average web user's usage...

Do your friends who use it use Google to use it? Or do they go to the site itself.

I don’t use the site itself but the irritating thing is a first page full of useless Pinterest links when searching for something.

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