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Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by muppetman »

Cyphase wrote: post #471
muppetman wrote: post #450

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You know you're only getting half the security updates though, yea? The Android ones you're getting, but anything in the baseband/modem/low-level hardware you're not. Don't get me wrong, I think Lineage is great and I use it too, but I think too many people are fooling themselves on how much extra security they're getting using it. LineageOS will be using the exact same baseband that came with Android 9 on hardware t…

I had to read your comment extra carefully to realize that you weren't saying LineageOS is _behind_ on updates for the baseband/etc., but rather that it only extends availability of Android updates, not baseband updates, due to the baseband being proprietary and updates no longer being released by the OEM. In other words, LineageOS provides the latest Android and baseband updates available; it's just that for the bas…

Yea, that's what I was trying to say. Sorry I didn't explain it very well :)

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by flexagoon »

SanderNL wrote: post #540

Kagi seems great and I’m more than willing to pay, but then my searches get literally attached to my credit card. At least Google can pretend it doesn’t know me directly.. It’s not that I am involved in shady business, but I do look up strange things from time to time. How do others feel about this? (I feel like there is a need for a private, maybe even local, search?)

You can pay for Kagi with crypto if you want to be anonymous

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by flexagoon »

__rito__ wrote: post #557

Hi, if someone from Kagi is reading this, can we please get a lower tier than $5/month- even specially for India? We are kinda priced out when keeping the PPP in mind. Say $1-$2 for 100-200 queries?

They can't really do that. Their prices are based on what it costs them to use all of the required APIs (Google, Bing, etc.) If they make a cheaper plan, they will quickly lose money on it.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by stavros »

ipaddr wrote: post #548
JoshuaEN wrote: post #158

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This is my experience as well. Low quality junk is often not present, and if it does show up, it's two mouse clicks to never see that domain again. Also the ability to promote high quality domains helps even more with this (though i have found one needs to be careful with pinning domains, as it can lead to irrelevant results being shown first because they have some if the same keywords).

Feels like I'm paying to do someone elses job.

Well, your alternative is that the job doesn't get done, for free.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by eviks »

viraptor wrote: post #74
mongol wrote: post #19

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Can the search result quality be quantified somehow? I remember when Google was new, and I used to use Altavista and Hotbot and those older search engines, the difference in results were like night and day, and Google's results were "wow!" Does Kagi give a similar impression as Google did then?

In my experience it's not that there's better quality results found, but rather low quality results are skipped. There's a lot filtered by default + it's easy to click "block this domain" when you run into yet another stackoverflow copy. It means that when you're searching for code related things, you often get small relevant blogs in position 3+ rather than SEO spam. For example searching for "current time on JavaSc…

But with an extension I can have a personal garbage block list or hide/collapse website preview without removing the result completely that works on other search engines

Btw, can you hide text preview on Kagi instead of removing the domain completely (in case you're not certain the website is garbage and sometimes want to check the results, but just want them less visible)?

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by vachina »

viraptor wrote: post #74
mongol wrote: post #19

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Can the search result quality be quantified somehow? I remember when Google was new, and I used to use Altavista and Hotbot and those older search engines, the difference in results were like night and day, and Google's results were "wow!" Does Kagi give a similar impression as Google did then?

In my experience it's not that there's better quality results found, but rather low quality results are skipped. There's a lot filtered by default + it's easy to click "block this domain" when you run into yet another stackoverflow copy. It means that when you're searching for code related things, you often get small relevant blogs in position 3+ rather than SEO spam. For example searching for "current time on JavaSc…

The fact that Kagi has a blocklist tells me their algo isn’t any superior.

The best kind of search engine is the kind that can read your mind (by inferring your intention or something)

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by laserlight »

CynicusRex wrote: post #534
RajT88 wrote: post #451

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Google's gotta make money off Pinterest somehow, based on the most blocked domains on Kagi: https://kagi.com/stats Pinterest is a scourge on the modern web, worse than any other.

It is indeed, hence “ https://www.startpage.com/do/search?q=%s -site:quora.com -site:pinterest.com” as my default search syntax.

I had to quit doing so, because I discovered that it didn't just exclude listed domains, but performed a totally different search. Locations or local results were largely missing, when I excluded some domains.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by mptest »

dbrueck wrote: post #175
prepend wrote: post #100

I wish there was a way to just buy 10,000 searches as a block and charge down against it. I don’t search that much. I don’t want another monthly service fee. But I love the idea of paying for search. Id happily pay $5 for 300 searches, but don’t want to do that every month. This seems like the buffet or gym model where they want people just mindlessly paying and then not using it that much.

I hear you, but it's also really hard from the service provider's perspective because - for many people at least - the allotment of searches starts to become a hinderance on using it. By making it feel a finite resource, some percentage of the users will start to ration their use of your service and/or do some deliberation before using it ("I kinda want to look that up, but I don't know if I want to spend one of my s…

>By making it feel a finite resource, some percentage of the users will start to ration their use of your service and/or do some deliberation before using it

Exactly to a T how I feel about Khanmigo. I pay for it because I love the idea of a maths tutor in my pocket that wont make me feel stupid, even if by accident, for forgetting something simple.

But there's a "battery" that resets every day and it just makes me anxious. I'd easily pay 50-100$/m instead of 10/m I already pay if I could get unlimited access but there's just no option for that.

If anyone has any recommendations for something like Khanmigo with unlimited access please please let me know. I'd pay so much for a good personal private tutor in my pocket. For maths if that helps.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by ethanpil »

Falkon1313 wrote: post #561
BoppreH wrote: post #191

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I'm wary of telemetry, but willing to accept it. It's the lack of respect that gets to me. "Yes/Maybe Later"? Showing me a fake Windows update screen once a month to try to get me to use an online account and switch to Edge? Starting a Bing search when the start menu doesn't recognize an application's name? Pre-installing games with advertisement and microtransactions? It's a commercial operating system, for Christ's…

>Starting a Bing search when the start menu doesn't recognize an application's name? Pre-installing games with advertisement and microtransactions? I'm always surprised when I see things like this on HN. Also complaints about it auto-rebooting to install updates, requiring an MSN account, etc. I turn all that stuff off when I first install it, so I see none of those problems. I just kind of assume any tech-savvy pers…

what's handy guide to disable it all?

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by eviks »

eitland wrote: post #517
mongol wrote: post #19

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Can the search result quality be quantified somehow? I remember when Google was new, and I used to use Altavista and Hotbot and those older search engines, the difference in results were like night and day, and Google's results were "wow!" Does Kagi give a similar impression as Google did then?

Yes. In four ways for me: - it actually respects my search. If I search for " " I get no result. It doesn't silently twist my search until it gets something it can show me a million utterly irrelevant results for. This is a huge time saver for me. - there are no ads. I usually didn't notice ads in the search results anyway as they were always irrelevant, but recently there has been so many of them that it took away s…

Does it warn you about typos in your "prhase that exists with a phrase " or just blanks out?
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