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Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by BoppreH »

rjh29 wrote: post #172
BoppreH wrote: post #153

Three years ago, I migrated from Gmail to FastMail because I was afraid of losing access to my digital life on Google's whim. Two years ago, I found out that my favorite Youtube creators were all on Nebula. One year ago, I switched my phone to LineageOS to get security updates a little longer. A month ago, I installed OpenStreetMaps because Google Maps got really bad at showing points-of-interest. And today, Kagi rem…

Yeah you sound like someone who should not be using Windows in any way shape or form. The telemetry and lack of control? Try Linux out.

I'm wary of telemetry, but willing to accept it. It's the lack of respect that gets to me. "Yes/Maybe Later"? Showing me a fake Windows update screen once a month to try to get me to use an online account and switch to Edge? Starting a Bing search when the start menu doesn't recognize an application's name? Pre-installing games with advertisement and microtransactions?

It's a commercial operating system, for Christ's sake, stop pushing sleazy features. They are quickly burning through all the trust acquired over decades.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by autoexec »

james2doyle wrote: post #77

I like the statement they made on their jobs page: Core Front-end Team Passion for creating delightful and swift user interfaces. Proficiency in HTML, CSS, and _an understanding that JavaScript can be used sparingly to enhance, not create, product experiences._ Ability to prototype rapidly. Fun fact: At Kagi, we prioritize speed, to the point where *all functionalities of Kagi Search (except Stripe checkout and Maps)…

I like the sound of it, but I do notice that the link https://kagi.com/search?q=what+is+%25&r=no_region&sh=Qd1RlT2... which someone posted elsewhere in this discussion as an example doesn't work with JS disabled.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by VHRanger »

rjh29 wrote: post #172
BoppreH wrote: post #153

Three years ago, I migrated from Gmail to FastMail because I was afraid of losing access to my digital life on Google's whim. Two years ago, I found out that my favorite Youtube creators were all on Nebula. One year ago, I switched my phone to LineageOS to get security updates a little longer. A month ago, I installed OpenStreetMaps because Google Maps got really bad at showing points-of-interest. And today, Kagi rem…

Yeah you sound like someone who should not be using Windows in any way shape or form. The telemetry and lack of control? Try Linux out.

The only lockin I have remaining to windows is video games really

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by dpkirchner »

dot5xdev wrote: post #41

I'm currently paying for Kagi. It's nice. But, so far I feel like it may only be like 2% better than Google, probably not enough to keep me long term. A lot of times the results are better on Kagi than Google, but not by much. It makes sense they're similar since Kagi uses Google's index (among others).

Being able to block domains (without an extension) makes Kagi at least 30% better on its own. Maybe more. It's absolutely a killer feature and one that Google themselves used to have.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by dcow »

boringg wrote: post #11

I think Kagi sounds interesting but the business model is a tough one outside of niche HN types. E.g. I am interested but can't be bothered to pursue it as it seems like an unnecessary additional SAS model cost to my monthly budget. How does search quality really change my life? Entrenched behavior is tough to overcome especially ostensibly free products.

Search quality improves my life. Like actually I'm a happier searcher since Kagi and I search more frequently because I have increased confidence that I'll get meaningful results. I don't grumble like I used to every time I had to wade through a pool of SEO shit spam. But that's just me.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by tills13 »

james2doyle wrote: post #77

I like the statement they made on their jobs page: Core Front-end Team Passion for creating delightful and swift user interfaces. Proficiency in HTML, CSS, and _an understanding that JavaScript can be used sparingly to enhance, not create, product experiences._ Ability to prototype rapidly. Fun fact: At Kagi, we prioritize speed, to the point where *all functionalities of Kagi Search (except Stripe checkout and Maps)…

In my opinion, in not using JavaScript they are missing out on a really nice DX. This is the kind of app that could be highly optimized _despite_ using React or something similar. Knee-capping your hiring to Make A Point (tm) is silly.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by arp242 »

dbrueck wrote: post #175
prepend wrote: post #100

I wish there was a way to just buy 10,000 searches as a block and charge down against it. I don’t search that much. I don’t want another monthly service fee. But I love the idea of paying for search. Id happily pay $5 for 300 searches, but don’t want to do that every month. This seems like the buffet or gym model where they want people just mindlessly paying and then not using it that much.

I hear you, but it's also really hard from the service provider's perspective because - for many people at least - the allotment of searches starts to become a hinderance on using it. By making it feel a finite resource, some percentage of the users will start to ration their use of your service and/or do some deliberation before using it ("I kinda want to look that up, but I don't know if I want to spend one of my s…

Yeah, exactly. I looked at Kagi last week (first time I had heard of it), when the $10/month plan was "only" 1,000 searches a month and "unlimited" was $25. While I think that I'll probably stay well within 1,000 searches, I'm also not sure, and it's just not something I want to have to worry about (it's ~33/day on average and I doubt I'll ever hit it, but still...)

One of the reasons I decided to skip Kagi for now.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by sshine »

prepend wrote: post #105
boringg wrote: post #11

I think Kagi sounds interesting but the business model is a tough one outside of niche HN types. E.g. I am interested but can't be bothered to pursue it as it seems like an unnecessary additional SAS model cost to my monthly budget. How does search quality really change my life? Entrenched behavior is tough to overcome especially ostensibly free products.

I’m waiting to pay $10/month for search+email. That I will do as I also keep meaning to switch off gmail to a pay service.

I pay $5/mo. for 30GB at FastMail, and $10/mo. for Kagi Search.

I switched away from Gmail years ago; the risk of getting locked out of my digital identity with no recourse is worth more than $5/mo. Not having my electronics receipts, plane tickets and newsletters datamined for an improved ad experience is just a perk.

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