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Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by anonzzzies »

_frkl wrote: post #598
anonzzzies wrote: post #592

Reading more about this lately; does it have an API and/or can it be automated? I would like a search engine in my workflow, not via their interface.

Yes, they have, but it's billed separately and more expensive than a subscription, depending on how much you use it: https://help.kagi.com/kagi/api/search.html Edit: also, looks like you have to be in the 'Team' plan for access. But who knows, if there is demand I'm sure they'd open this up, so maybe just ping them.

I seems I am a bit daft for not finding that; thank you.

Anyone knows why the API would be so much more expensive? With Google I can understand because with the API you miss a lot of the tracking, targeting and advertising, but if you don't have any of that, why would it cost so much more than normal searching?

I understand unlimited is off the table for an API, but 1000 for $25 is quite a bit.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by leokennis »

I’m very glad there’s a market for paid premium search engines and based on the comments here Kagi is doing fantastic.

However I experimented last week by running all my searches (work and personal) in DDG (my default) and then also in Kagi. And basically they either both had the best result first, or sometimes second or third. Definitely not a $10/month difference for me.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by __rito__ »

flexagoon wrote: post #573
__rito__ wrote: post #557

Hi, if someone from Kagi is reading this, can we please get a lower tier than $5/month- even specially for India? We are kinda priced out when keeping the PPP in mind. Say $1-$2 for 100-200 queries?

They can't really do that. Their prices are based on what it costs them to use all of the required APIs (Google, Bing, etc.) If they make a cheaper plan, they will quickly lose money on it.

That's why I proposed reduced searches per month.

To put things into perspective:

- YouTube premium is $1.30/month

- Amazon Prime is $1.50/month ($0.75 if you are - Spotify premium is $1.44/month

- Netflix (1080p, no-ads, 2 devices) is $6/month

$5 is decent home-cooked lunch for eight days in India.

Maybe Kagi's target customer base isn't India, and that's okay. But to do business in India, a company has to do, what I call- "India pricing". Maybe there are better terms for it.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by xigoi »

freediver wrote: post #359
xigoi wrote: post #199

Is there any tool you can run on your browser history to determine whether 300 searches/month would be enough for you?

You check how fast you run out of Kagi free trial 100 searches and extrapolate from there.

I'm afraid that wouldn't be representative because being on a limit would change my searching behavior.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by TisButMe »

linza wrote: post #522
yunwal wrote: post #500

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not what you're asking for, but FYI, you can sign up for a month or a year and immediately cancel your subscription very easily on the Kagi site. You'll still have access until the end of the subscription period.

You probably just killed this "feature" since kagi employees are monitoring this forum :)

We do read the comments, but as far as I'm concerned this is a feature, not a bug :)

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by smrq »

aidenn0 wrote: post #204
BoppreH wrote: post #191

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm wary of telemetry, but willing to accept it. It's the lack of respect that gets to me. "Yes/Maybe Later"? Showing me a fake Windows update screen once a month to try to get me to use an online account and switch to Edge? Starting a Bing search when the start menu doesn't recognize an application's name? Pre-installing games with advertisement and microtransactions? It's a commercial operating system, for Christ's…

Yeah, Windows 8 was kind of ineffably bad. I know exactly effing why Windows 10 is bad; nothing ineffable about it.

The only thing I will credit Win8 for is that it felt really good on a Surface--Win10 was actually a step back on that platform. Which is natural, because 8 was clearly designed for the Surface to the exclusion of everything else, and they rightfully had to walk it back because the choices they made were ridiculous on the majority of Windows machines.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by oblio »

bambax wrote: post #591
viraptor wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In my experience it's not that there's better quality results found, but rather low quality results are skipped. There's a lot filtered by default + it's easy to click "block this domain" when you run into yet another stackoverflow copy. It means that when you're searching for code related things, you often get small relevant blogs in position 3+ rather than SEO spam. For example searching for "current time on JavaSc…

> when you run into yet another stackoverflow copy OMG. Why doesn't Google filter out the likes of geeksforgeeks for instance? How is it possible that it always come before the genuine SO answer? Even without offering the possibility to filter out a domain (which they had, and later removed), how does the ranking algorithm not see those horrible, zero value clones??

Misaligned incentives (in corporate terms, $$$).

I can't tell you what they are, but there are probably internal Google incentives to filter and internal Google incentives to not filter, and the ones to not filter are probably stronger.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by alwyn »

Falkon1313 wrote: post #561
BoppreH wrote: post #191

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm wary of telemetry, but willing to accept it. It's the lack of respect that gets to me. "Yes/Maybe Later"? Showing me a fake Windows update screen once a month to try to get me to use an online account and switch to Edge? Starting a Bing search when the start menu doesn't recognize an application's name? Pre-installing games with advertisement and microtransactions? It's a commercial operating system, for Christ's…

>Starting a Bing search when the start menu doesn't recognize an application's name? Pre-installing games with advertisement and microtransactions? I'm always surprised when I see things like this on HN. Also complaints about it auto-rebooting to install updates, requiring an MSN account, etc. I turn all that stuff off when I first install it, so I see none of those problems. I just kind of assume any tech-savvy pers…

Some things can only be disabled on Windows Enterprise, not on Home or even Pro. For example for some aspects you need Group Policy, which isn't available in Home.

The defaults might make sense from a usability perspective, but are predatory and plainly spy on the user, with the majority of users not even aware of it.

Re: Unlimited Kagi searches for $10 per month

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Post by rambambram »

robin_reala wrote: post #528
HanClinto wrote: post #238

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've generally really loved w3schools for their tutorials -- I've been using them to teach my kids web programming and whatnot recently and generally been happy with them. Is there something I'm missing about it? Maybe it's because we have really good ad-blockers running, but their content seems fine and (generally?) not terribly "lifted" from other sites (I.E., just SEO spam). Is there a replacement for them that fi…

Leaving aside what everyone else said, the thing that rankled has always been a false claim of association with W3 in their domain name.

With W3C, you mean? Because as far as I know W3 stands just for world wide web.
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