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Re: LabelContactRelationYoungerCousinMothersSiblingsDaughterOrFathersSistersDaughter

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In Swedish our words for many relationships follow a very simple system of composing relationships. A few examples: Mor = mother Far = father Bror = brother Morfar = mother's father Farfar = father's father Farmor = father's mother Farfar = father's father Farbror = father's brother Morbror = mother's brother ...

Brorbror.. your brother's brother?

My other brother Darryl

Re: LabelContactRelationYoungerCousinMothersSiblingsDaughterOrFathersSistersDaughter

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The space makes the difference between "word exists" and "word doesn't exist".

I would have accepted it if it was something people would actually say, even if it was written like two words or more. Example: sister/brother in law is something that is close enough even if it isn't written in one word like Norwegian svigerinne/svoger. But as far as I am aware English only uses grandsomething (or variations of it) + further description as needed.

Paternal grandmother, paternal grandfather, maternal grandmother, and maternal grandfather

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Even "Uncle". In english, Mom's brother and Dad's brother both are uncles ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Also mom's sister's husband and dad's sister's husband. You can have a mother-in-law, a brother-in-law, a son-in-law, but there's no such thing as an uncle-in-law.

> Also mom's sister's husband and dad's sister's husband.

I'm curious to know how common this is. It was always the norm for me, but sometimes I got the feeling I had accidentally mislead people when talking about my 'uncle' (Mum's sister's husband), whom they expected to be a blood relative of mine.

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Think about it this way: your brother in law is your child's uncle.

Only if all of your children are with the same spouse.

Right now at Apple's HQ: "New labels are required for ex-brother-in-law."

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I am fairly sure English doesn't have (or at least does not use) separate everyday words for farmor/farfar (fathers mother / fathers mother) or mormor/morfar (same for mothers parents). Sure in academic language there is probably a way to describe it (edit: and the concept is easy to explain) but there is nothing quick that you can use to tell a kid so they immediately know which of the grandparents we are going to v…

I can't tell if this is serious. I don't even know which language you're using but it is literally no different than mom's mom and dad's mom other than a space.

The point of the conversation is how people express these relationships in their day-to-day so they can be encoded in software.

Would your grandparents' contact be saved on your phone as "Mom's mom" or as "grandma"? Probably the second, which is indistinguishable from "grandma" as "Dad's mom".

In Norwegian, people would naturally call these "mormor" and "farmor" and they would expect that relationship to be correctly labeled in their localized app.

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I can't tell if this is serious. I don't even know which language you're using but it is literally no different than mom's mom and dad's mom other than a space.

The point of the conversation is how people express these relationships in their day-to-day so they can be encoded in software. Would your grandparents' contact be saved on your phone as "Mom's mom" or as "grandma"? Probably the second, which is indistinguishable from "grandma" as "Dad's mom". In Norwegian, people would naturally call these "mormor" and "farmor" and they would expect that relationship to be correctly…

At least in Swedish, I don't even think there is a generic word for "grandmother", you literally always in every case specify which one it is.

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I am fairly sure English doesn't have (or at least does not use) separate everyday words for farmor/farfar (fathers mother / fathers mother) or mormor/morfar (same for mothers parents). Sure in academic language there is probably a way to describe it (edit: and the concept is easy to explain) but there is nothing quick that you can use to tell a kid so they immediately know which of the grandparents we are going to v…

I can't tell if this is serious. I don't even know which language you're using but it is literally no different than mom's mom and dad's mom other than a space.

There is no "grandmother" in Swedish, you just have mormor and farmor. That makes a huge difference with how you have to use the language, you can't say "do you have a grandparent" since there is no word for grandparent, you will have to say "do you have any mom or father parents".

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I don't speak Armenian, but I dated an Armenian woman once, and she told me they have words for familial relationships that we didn't really have concepts for in English.

In Swedish our words for many relationships follow a very simple system of composing relationships. A few examples: Mor = mother Far = father Bror = brother Morfar = mother's father Farfar = father's father Farmor = father's mother Farfar = father's father Farbror = father's brother Morbror = mother's brother ...

The same is true in Norwegian, but then they go and ruin it all with "oldemor" = "great grandmother", instead of persisting with e.g. "mormormor".

Re: LabelContactRelationYoungerCousinMothersSiblingsDaughterOrFathersSistersDaughter

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I would have accepted it if it was something people would actually say, even if it was written like two words or more. Example: sister/brother in law is something that is close enough even if it isn't written in one word like Norwegian svigerinne/svoger. But as far as I am aware English only uses grandsomething (or variations of it) + further description as needed.

Paternal grandmother, paternal grandfather, maternal grandmother, and maternal grandfather

There is a big difference, though. In English you would usually say grandma/grandpa and rarely qualify by on which side.

In Swedish and Norwegian you always specify because the words for grandparents are inherent specific to whether they are paternal or maternal.

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If you squint hard enough - yes. I do not know if it is Sapir-Whorf, but if I grew up using completely different words for sisters of my spouse, brothers of my spouse, husband of my sister, and wife of my brother, they do not look that similar to me.

But you understand they’re all referring to aunts and uncles of your children

No I didn't understand that, since aunt and uncle doesn't mean that in my language. I thought it was just parents sister and brother, I didn't know that parent in laws were also considered aunts and uncles.
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