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Re: The Pirate Bay's 20th Anniversary

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Post by WarOnPrivacy »

squarefoot wrote: post #59
seanw444 wrote: post #18

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I've always found it odd that people have such guttural reactions to cryptocurrency. It's a technology. Calm down. It's become like politics now. "Fuck Republicans, fuck conservative nonsense." is what I'd expect to hear, not getting pissed over an algorithm. Kinda brings me comedic relief.

> I've always found it odd that people have such guttural reactions to cryptocurrency. Cryptocurrency has been used for a huge number of scams, and generally to allow criminals launder their money and do more easily their job. All of this, and more, at a huge environmental expense. Technically the concept is great, but the implementation and use has been mostly harmful so far.

You could say much of the same about email. Especially given that more spam is sent than legit.

ref: https://dataprot.net/statistics/spam-statistics/

Re: The Pirate Bay's 20th Anniversary

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Post by xtracto »

BLKNSLVR wrote: post #20

I find the opinions of Peter Sunde in this article quite interesting. Even seven years ago he was saying that torrent sites had stagnated and there was necessity for innovation to protect against the vulnerabilities inherent in having only few large, popular torrent sites. So, this 20th anniversary is somewhat of a bitter pill to swallow for at least one of the founders. https://torrentfreak.com/pirate-bay-founder-pi…

I sadly agree: Popcorn time and webtorrent was the most recent "improvement" into torrent technology .

But for the tech progress available now, we should have the MPAA, RIAA and all other copyright cartels shivering on their knees, with 100% anonymous, distributed data transfers

In my youngster time (80s and 90s), there were a lot of ideas and projects: kazaa , ed2k, kad, mute, i2p, freenet, bittorrent among plenty of others.

But it seems young kids today are busier o other things (tiktok influencers?) Or they had become highly profit driven.

Re: The Pirate Bay's 20th Anniversary

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Post by TheHappyOddish »

arp242 wrote: post #99
didntcheck wrote: post #98

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Out of interest, do you know if it was the exact same torrent (modulo trackers), i.e. the same infohash/magnet? You could have a look at the created date in the metadata to get an idea. One unfortunate thing with torrenting is how you'd often get the same content but in slightly different torrents, sometimes differing only by "torrent downloaded from xtremetrackrr69.txt", which would split the users into different sw…

I don't know; it says "uploaded on 2007-10-19" with my (old) username, so I assume it's the same torrent. It doesn't have the "Downloaded from Demonoid.txt" file though, so maybe I'm misremembering that I uploaded it to Demonoid, or it's a different torrent (but with "my" files). To be honest I can't be bothered to look at it further, but here's the torrent if you want to look at it yourself: https://thepiratebay.org…

> with the disclaimer that some comments in the README do NOT represent my current attitude or views, and haven't for well over 10 years

Oh come on, it can't be that bad...

> and no, stupid "Sci-Fi" like Stargate or Enterprise is not good science fiction

Wow. Thank you for atoning for your sins.

Re: The Pirate Bay's 20th Anniversary

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Post by devoutsalsa »

rakoo wrote: post #90
devoutsalsa wrote: post #29

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> you can download the contents of a torrent by its hash How are hash collisions resolved? I'd hate to think I'm downloading my favorite TV show & find that I've downloaded something that makes ma attract the attention of law enforcement.

It's sha1, collisions are unrealistic

Thanks, that’s the answer was looking for.

Re: The Pirate Bay's 20th Anniversary

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Post by arp242 »

TheHappyOddish wrote: post #113
arp242 wrote: post #99

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I don't know; it says "uploaded on 2007-10-19" with my (old) username, so I assume it's the same torrent. It doesn't have the "Downloaded from Demonoid.txt" file though, so maybe I'm misremembering that I uploaded it to Demonoid, or it's a different torrent (but with "my" files). To be honest I can't be bothered to look at it further, but here's the torrent if you want to look at it yourself: https://thepiratebay.org…

> with the disclaimer that some comments in the README do NOT represent my current attitude or views, and haven't for well over 10 years Oh come on, it can't be that bad... > and no, stupid "Sci-Fi" like Stargate or Enterprise is not good science fiction Wow. Thank you for atoning for your sins.

To be honest I still don't really like either; Stargate is fun at times but superficial and has some serious weirdness (in a bad way) at times, and Enterprise suffers from even more time-travel nonsense than Voyager did (plus some other things). It's okay to like things or not like things, it's the "bruh huh I'm so much smarter than all you mainstream nincompoops" kind of attitude I dislike. I suppose it's a classic youthful "rebel against the mainstream" kind of attitude shrug

Re: The Pirate Bay's 20th Anniversary

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Post by lloeki »

cjblomqvist wrote: post #78
lloeki wrote: post #64

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query a known (or attempt reaching a previously known) peer

Isn't that then the centralized authority?

Well, no:

- IPs of peers can be obtained from any source, not necessarily a centralized one. you could argue that this is centralized if you use only one, but there is no central authority and you can move to any other one or use a sizeable list of completely independent sources.

- torrent clients can persist previously contacted peers to contact them when starting up again from scratch, attempting connection in hopes that they are still around (which at least some usually are given that clients are usually long-running processes)

Re: The Pirate Bay's 20th Anniversary

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Post by kobalsky »

NikolaNovak wrote: post #107
kobalsky wrote: post #106

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You will find that kind of response here due to the demographic. I know it's not everyone, but most people here are well off, educated and highly employable. The system works for them... and that's the kind people who can't easily see or benefit from what crypto brings to the table.

Is the argument here that poor uneducated unemployed people in developing countries are the ones profiting from Crypto? As, say, percentage of turnover or revenue?

> poor uneducated unemployed people in developing countries

I don't think poor uneducated unmployed people in developing countries have money to worry about.

> are the ones profiting from Crypto?

Profit is the wrong word.

In my country people are not looking for profit when they buy dollars. When even the official inflation numbers are above 120%, they are escaping state sponsored pillage.

Naturally it's illegal to buy dollars here, so the only way to do this is cash. Everyone who can save a penny will try to buy dollars, so by the strict definition, the country is pretty much filled with criminals.

Since having basic banking is something everyone wants, crypto becomes an attractive alternative for those who can sort out the technical barriers of entry.

Re: The Pirate Bay's 20th Anniversary

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Post by soulofmischief »

NikolaNovak wrote: post #101
soulofmischief wrote: post #87

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In any case, I think we can all agree that one shouldn't compare cryptocurrency to a perpetual motion machine. It's a real technology, with real utility for the people whose problems it solves.

Sure, and it's also different than racism, which is a prejudice toward other human beings based on criteria they have no control over. The list was heterogeneous analogies to illustrate a point, not equivalences. And that point was: there are concepts which are not obscure and no longer new and people have had some experience with, and its ok to have a negative reaction about them until and unless some pretty darn no…

Okay, but the fundamental difference is that cryptocurrency works as intended and provides value for an entire economy of people even during this experimental phase where we are still working things out.

Re: The Pirate Bay's 20th Anniversary

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Post by flangola7 »

LeoNatan25 wrote: post #104
flangola7 wrote: post #30

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What features do they each offer?

BitTorrent is a protocol that has taken over pirated content distribution (in the context of ThePirateBay). “gnutella” is something most people have not even heard of. I’d say that’s feature enough.

That really doesn't answer my question

Re: The Pirate Bay's 20th Anniversary

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Post by indigochill »

londons_explore wrote: post #96
indigochill wrote: post #95

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> "Distributed cloud backup" Relatedly, when Docker started charging open source projects for Dockerhub storage, a friend and I started brainstorming a torrent registry driver (although we didn't find a way around the project still needing to provide a signature for verification at least, even if it didn't need to maintain hosting for the image itself) Nothing to show for it just yet, but point being I think this "di…

What's the signature problem? For a read-only registry, signatures can all be included in the torrent. For a versioned registry, all the info can be stored in any cloud key-value store - eg. The bittorrent DHT

It could just be a lack of understanding on our part, but here's the scenario we're thinking about:

Say the Redis team seeds a redis:1.0 image. So far, so good.

But what if a nefarious hacker seeds a redis:2.0 image? In a traditional registry, the auth system for the registry ensures that only those who are authorized can write to a particular registry. But in (at least our understanding of) a swarm, there is no auth and therefore no way to know if a particular tag of the redis image in the swarm is legitimate or not.

if I understand you, this is where you're saying the info can be stored in the DHT, which I don't really understand at the moment but if so that sounds like something we should look into.

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