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The Pirate Bay's 20th Anniversary

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Re: The Pirate Bay's 20th Anniversary

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Post by NikolaNovak »

soulofmischief wrote: post #87
NikolaNovak wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But politics impact me and my family and the world we live in. And some technologies do too! So it's natural and probably good to have thoughts and perspectives and positions on politics and technologies that impact me and my family and the world we live in (rather than be apathetic). Should we avoid polarization, and arguing by memes, absolutely! But like perpetual motion machine and eugenics and racism and trickle…

In any case, I think we can all agree that one shouldn't compare cryptocurrency to a perpetual motion machine. It's a real technology, with real utility for the people whose problems it solves.

Sure, and it's also different than racism, which is a prejudice toward other human beings based on criteria they have no control over.

The list was heterogeneous analogies to illustrate a point, not equivalences. And that point was: there are concepts which are not obscure and no longer new and people have had some experience with, and its ok to have a negative reaction about them until and unless some pretty darn novel new evidence or argument comes up (yet there exists a set of people who still buy into it and don't understand the negativity). Like, I have a friend who's into crypto currency and I know a guy who's into racism and I have an uncle who's working on perpetual working machine... and they'll all get a "negative gutural reaction" from me.

Re: The Pirate Bay's 20th Anniversary

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Post by blacksmith_tb »

fragmede wrote: post #71
mortureb wrote: post #55

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Not to diminish his contributions but the high level idea was relatively simple. Break a file into pieces and then reconstitute them using hashes. The devil really is in being able to actually implement that which he also did. Ashwin Navin was pivotal in getting it out there for people to use as well.

Splitting a file into parts predates BitTorrent by quite a while. Rare archives, with a parity chunk were being uploaded to alt.bin newsgroups for years if not decades before BitTorrent was ever released. It was the swarm upload feature which did it, allowed modem users, with poor upload speeds, to participate in uploading the file to everyone on the swarm that did it.

Rare, or RAR?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAR_(file_format)

Re: The Pirate Bay's 20th Anniversary

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Post by 93po »

spdgg wrote: post #65
ramesh31 wrote: post #37

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>Theodore Roosevelt Excerpt from the speech "Citizenship In A Republic" delivered at The Sorbonne Paris, France April 23, 1910 Yeah, he was also a rich guy born with a silver spoon, who never faced any actual adversity in life, and so spent his time fetishizing those who do, while LARPing as one of them in controlled environments. Read into his whole trip through South America; it's an absolute disgrace. The attitude…

> Yeah, he was also a rich guy born with a silver spoon, who never faced any actual adversity in life, and so spent his time fetishizing those who do, while LARPing as one of them in controlled environments. I am all for being critical of class-based inequalities but having resources does not exempt one from adversity. Very few people would consider someone who spent their whole childhood in debilitating sickness, so…

The adversities you're listing were extremely common back then (and even today) and not anything especially noteworthy

Re: The Pirate Bay's 20th Anniversary

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Post by LeoNatan25 »

flangola7 wrote: post #30
LeoNatan25 wrote: post #12

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The “gnu” in the name is likely all they care about.

What features do they each offer?

BitTorrent is a protocol that has taken over pirated content distribution (in the context of ThePirateBay). “gnutella” is something most people have not even heard of. I’d say that’s feature enough.

Re: The Pirate Bay's 20th Anniversary

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Post by kobalsky »

seanw444 wrote: post #18
automatic6131 wrote: post #17

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"Proof of Space-time" Oooh, what a fancy, high-falutin word for... writing bingo tickets to your SSD. Could more accurately be called "proof of bingo card", and then it doesn't infringe on actually interesting concepts, like relativistic physics. I remember when the new of Chia caused SSD prices to spike around the time I was buying, in the speculative fever for free money. At least it crashed, causing the Chia miner…

I've always found it odd that people have such guttural reactions to cryptocurrency. It's a technology. Calm down. It's become like politics now. "Fuck Republicans, fuck conservative nonsense." is what I'd expect to hear, not getting pissed over an algorithm. Kinda brings me comedic relief.

You will find that kind of response here due to the demographic. I know it's not everyone, but most people here are well off, educated and highly employable. The system works for them... and that's the kind people who can't easily see or benefit from what crypto brings to the table.

Re: The Pirate Bay's 20th Anniversary

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Post by NikolaNovak »

kobalsky wrote: post #106
seanw444 wrote: post #18

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I've always found it odd that people have such guttural reactions to cryptocurrency. It's a technology. Calm down. It's become like politics now. "Fuck Republicans, fuck conservative nonsense." is what I'd expect to hear, not getting pissed over an algorithm. Kinda brings me comedic relief.

You will find that kind of response here due to the demographic. I know it's not everyone, but most people here are well off, educated and highly employable. The system works for them... and that's the kind people who can't easily see or benefit from what crypto brings to the table.

Is the argument here that poor uneducated unemployed people in developing countries are the ones profiting from Crypto? As, say, percentage of turnover or revenue?

Re: The Pirate Bay's 20th Anniversary

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Post by throwawaymobule »

jiofj wrote: post #10
devoutsalsa wrote: post #8

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Me: What is DHT? Also Me: Distributed hash table. Me: Thanks. Also Me: You're welcome, but don't be too impressed. I googled it.

DHT is a protocol that allows peers to exchange data about torrents and peers; you can download the contents of a torrent by its hash instead of having to download a .torrent file and connect to a server to find peers. Kademlia is similar for eMule, only that it also allows search.

I love that most clients support just pasting the infohash into the 'add url' field.

Saved me a few times on shady-looking sites that demanded an account or something before showing a download link, but still listed the infohash on the page. Useful too when pasting it into a search engine actually gave results.

Re: The Pirate Bay's 20th Anniversary

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Post by throwawaymobule »

janvdberg wrote: post #11

Side-note: I will always be in awe of the BitTorrent protocol. A resilient and efficient piece of tech that at its height was responsible for LARGE amounts of internet traffic (facilitated by sites like the TPB) and was (mostly) developed by just one guy: Bram Cohen.

most cool tech stuff usually starts out with a single person hacking away in a bedroom somewhere.

Re: The Pirate Bay's 20th Anniversary

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Post by fragmede »

blacksmith_tb wrote: post #102
fragmede wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Splitting a file into parts predates BitTorrent by quite a while. Rare archives, with a parity chunk were being uploaded to alt.bin newsgroups for years if not decades before BitTorrent was ever released. It was the swarm upload feature which did it, allowed modem users, with poor upload speeds, to participate in uploading the file to everyone on the swarm that did it.

Rare, or RAR? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAR_(file_format)

thanks, you're right - RAR (with .par). phone autocorrect.
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