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Re: Car showed pop-up while driving

#141

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Seriously. I have zero use for a touch screen in a car. Maps? When I drive I look at... the road. If I need directions, google maps can tell me to turn left etc by voice commands.

I don't think I could live without it anymore, but I have a really tight parking situation at home and the parking sensors that are exposed through the head unit are really useful. Not to mention navigation and all that stuff. These features are really considered standard now by most (but definitely not all) people.

I had that in a car from 2008 or so. Camera feed switched on when you were reversing, but no touch screen.

Re: Car showed pop-up while driving

#142

I got this one twice already. Ironically if you choose yes, it will say "cannot view while driving" and then it goes away till the next time you start driving.

What a farce And what if you disagree with it?

Thanks to the new tech wave, my guess is that you don't actually own your device even though you "bought" it, so if you disagree with it then they will just shut it down and it's on you to either agree or sell it.

I hope (and if I thought there was any point in praying, would do that too) that a car company like Toyota will go against this trend and empower the owner to own things. I bought a new Toyota this year and I worry that they're in the process of making the Toyota smartphone app mandatory, though it isn't yet.

Re: Car showed pop-up while driving

#143

Tangent: I would love if there was a place that did car reviews that actually talked about UI. Car interfaces are such a huge part of the experience of driving now, and none of the car review channels I watch give it more than a couple sentences. If they ever mention the UI at all, it's to say whether it feels "snappy", or if it supports CarPlay, or how large the touch screen is. I want a deep dive into more of the d…

Totally agree. I went a fairly long time (>10 years) between car purchases and was shocked at how terrible the interfaces are in most new cars. That and creepy spyware were two of the main differentiators for me, and it can be hard to find that information on a range of cars.

Re: Car showed pop-up while driving

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I'm always surprised we don't see more car console "Blue Screens" reported. Weird reboots mid-drive and such.

In my car the UI just freezes until the headunit restarts 1-2 minutes later.

A few years ago I rode with a friend and he'd have to turn ignition off and on again to restart the headunit. That's rather annoying while cruising on the highway. The madman still did it - a bit dangerous because you lose power steering and the brake booster without the engine running.

Re: Car showed pop-up while driving

#146

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I definitely acknowledge I don't live there so I can't truly know, but I feel like I'd just prefer to live in a region where everything is consistent instead of constantly changing units all the time. We want to talk meters? Sure, We want to talk miles? That's fine. But something like "Ipswitch is 90km from Cambridge, you're going 40 miles per hour, how long till you get there?" just seems annoying to me, more annoyi…

British recipes use ml. You’d rarely see a pint in a British recipe unless ir was quite old. American recipes use pints and - even more insane - cups. British distance is measured in miles unless it’s a short distance under half a mile in which it’s metres or unless it’s someone old in which case it will be yards or feet. Of a horse race, in which case it’s yards and furlongs. Land is measured in acres but industrial…

> American recipes use pints and - even more insane - cups.

How are cups even more insane than pints?

Re: Car showed pop-up while driving

#147

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unfortunately Apple seems to be the only consumer brand on earth which actually gives a crap about real disabled folks using their devices and making their lives better because of it

I am heavily critical of Apple for a number of different reasons, and if they weren't so heavy handed with their control then there would be third party options out there. But utlimately I very much agree and I think Apple deserves praise for that. I wish more companies would invest in it (although to some extent I concede that it is a luxury that deep-pocket companies can afford that smaller companies can't).

I don't like Apple and have never owned any of their devices, but if I ever went blind or developed parkinsons or simply got quite old I would drop any other brand and go full in with them.

It's astonishing how they keep adding extremely useful things update over update buried in the accessibility settings. I guess they know they have a stronghold when it comes to serving disabled people so they do their best to keep that market sector extremely happy.

Re: Car showed pop-up while driving

#148

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Maybe the cookie tracking whether or not you responded isn’t saved if you reject cookies?

Cookies for functionality that's necessary, i.e. expected by the user, are completely legal without any consent or notification. Fact of the matter is, when you see a cookie banner, that's always for spyware shit that the service doesn't really need to serve the user (e.g., analytics, tracking).

> Cookies for functionality that's necessary, i.e. expected by the user, are completely legal without any consent or notification.

No that is not the case, though it's easy (and common) to mistakenly think that - in part due to the confusing nature of the various regulations and in part due to how frequently companies and websites purposefully misinterpret them for their benefit.

Firstly, there are legitimate reasons to ask for consent to store user data that relate to providing a service (eg if the service is storing a user's personal medical records, or many many possible functions within many services).

Secondly, even without personal information being used or stored, and therefore no GDPR to worry about nor consent needing to be sought, cookies are a separate matter. A different EU law (the 2009 update of the "ePrivacy Directive") requires EU users be notified of any cookie use - even something as obviously reasonable as providing the functionality of a "keep me logged in" checkbox, if you're doing it with a cookie (edit: or even something equivalent like using fingerprinting on the server side to remember people) you need to notify the user.

See, for example, the UK ICO's (the relevant department for dealing with UK's implementation of GDPR, ePrivacy Directive, etc) guidance on it:

> This means that if you use cookies you must:

> - say what cookies will be set;

> - explain what the cookies will do; and

> - obtain consent to store cookies on devices.

> PECR also applies to ‘similar technologies’ like fingerprinting techniques. Therefore, unless an exemption applies, any use of device fingerprinting requires the provision of clear and comprehensive information as well as the consent of the user or subscriber.

https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/direct-marketing-and-pr...

A cookie being necessary for actual core functionality does allow skipping over requiring consent, but not skipping the notification part. Which is why 14 years ago, years before GDPR arrived, EU sites all started putting "cookie banners" up, most of which didn't ask for consent and just appeared on the first site visit for each user even if they didn't actively dismiss it, since showing it once was widely considered to count as having notified.

Sorry for such a long comment, but the fact that these topics are so widely misunderstood means I think it's important not to make things worse by accidentally spreading misinformation like that in your comment.

Re: Car showed pop-up while driving

#149

It's fine to figure out how to pull the damn sim card on vehicles. There is 0 reason my car needs a cloud connection. It's job is to convey person from A -> B. That is it.

Nah I like having an app for my car. The ability to preheat/precool the car from anywhere as well as see detailed stats for every journey is worth it(for me).

It's fine to leave it in if you like those features but many people couldn't care less about them and hate the distracting popups, spying, and auto-updates that change functionality.

Re: Car showed pop-up while driving

#150

I got this one twice already. Ironically if you choose yes, it will say "cannot view while driving" and then it goes away till the next time you start driving.

What a farce And what if you disagree with it?

Well, the photographed prompt says do you want to review them, not do you agree to them. My guess is that in Big Corp. Inc.'s mind, you don't have a choice about agreeing to them—er, ahem I mean you agreed to all possible future updates to our Terms & Conditions when you purchased the vehicle. Oh and your agreement is subject to forced binding arbitration — see here, in your contract, in 0.2 pt font?
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