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Re: VCMI: Open-Source Engine for Heroes of Might and Magic III

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Post by bombcar »

bluefirebrand wrote: post #62
hydrok9 wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually 4 was supposed to be a better game than 3, but there was a huge backlash against the introduction of a technologically based faction. They scrapped this idea and the game was rushed out. 3d0 went bankrupt right after.

I had never known they were planning a technology faction for HOMM4, that's interesting to hear. Might and Magic is a fun setting because it's secretly SciFi and you would never know it from the Heroes games as far as I've ever seen. But a bunch of the Might and Magic RPG games start with sword and sorcery and end with laser guns.

The lore for HOMM 3 is absolutely insane if you find some of the developer documents; everything is robots and aliens and spaceships and such.

That got mostly cut during development and they never went further down that route. Horn of the Abyss is attempting to bring that faction back to life with Forge.

Re: VCMI: Open-Source Engine for Heroes of Might and Magic III

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Post by thriftwy »

bombcar wrote: post #72
Kiro wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What basic things are you referring to? I've only ever played the original and didn't even know there were expansions.

Depending on what "original" you played, it may have had the expansions bundled together - Heroes 3 complete came out in 2000. Features added in expansions: * Conflux * Can choose to buy unupgraded creatures from an upgraded dwelling * Can garrison mines * New Heros * Combination Artifacts * Random Map generator * Magical terrains The Random Map generator is the biggest one, likely.

Can re-visit a place by pressing space bar (not present in 1.0, so I have heard)

Re: VCMI: Open-Source Engine for Heroes of Might and Magic III

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Post by jakderrida »

nathell wrote: post #11

I still spend inordinate amounts of time playing Heroes 3. It’s been a strong procrastination feeder over the decades, but it also gave me a lot of fun! I mostly play HotA in HD Mod these days, but I had used VCMI on Android (with SoD). It’s been a bit rough – the client-server thing that it does would have connection issues, the mechanics differed in subtle ways, etc. But I’m also super grateful that it exists.

> It’s been a strong procrastination feeder over the decades, but it also gave me a lot of fun!

I remember buying some random Sega Genesis game that had the same effect on everyone I loaned it to, even a couple years after Playstation came out. Nobody was immune and, even after I showed them the tricks to winning, it only got worse.

Then I saw my baby brother playing the Heroes Playstation 2 port and I realized it's the exact same game, but was called King's Bounty on Genesis.

Re: VCMI: Open-Source Engine for Heroes of Might and Magic III

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Post by hydrok9 »

jakderrida wrote: post #84
nathell wrote: post #11

I still spend inordinate amounts of time playing Heroes 3. It’s been a strong procrastination feeder over the decades, but it also gave me a lot of fun! I mostly play HotA in HD Mod these days, but I had used VCMI on Android (with SoD). It’s been a bit rough – the client-server thing that it does would have connection issues, the mechanics differed in subtle ways, etc. But I’m also super grateful that it exists.

> It’s been a strong procrastination feeder over the decades, but it also gave me a lot of fun! I remember buying some random Sega Genesis game that had the same effect on everyone I loaned it to, even a couple years after Playstation came out. Nobody was immune and, even after I showed them the tricks to winning, it only got worse. Then I saw my baby brother playing the Heroes Playstation 2 port and I realized it's…

King's Bounty was its own game which preceeded Heroes 1

Re: VCMI: Open-Source Engine for Heroes of Might and Magic III

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Post by idrios »

jakderrida wrote: post #84
nathell wrote: post #11

I still spend inordinate amounts of time playing Heroes 3. It’s been a strong procrastination feeder over the decades, but it also gave me a lot of fun! I mostly play HotA in HD Mod these days, but I had used VCMI on Android (with SoD). It’s been a bit rough – the client-server thing that it does would have connection issues, the mechanics differed in subtle ways, etc. But I’m also super grateful that it exists.

> It’s been a strong procrastination feeder over the decades, but it also gave me a lot of fun! I remember buying some random Sega Genesis game that had the same effect on everyone I loaned it to, even a couple years after Playstation came out. Nobody was immune and, even after I showed them the tricks to winning, it only got worse. Then I saw my baby brother playing the Heroes Playstation 2 port and I realized it's…

Btw there's a King's Bounty 2 out now that was released in 2021. My dad picked it up recently, he enjoyed it a lot. Combat is the same party-building/grid-based tactics, but rest of the game is much more of a linear/semi-open world RPG compared to Heroes

Re: VCMI: Open-Source Engine for Heroes of Might and Magic III

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Post by hydrok9 »

bluefirebrand wrote: post #79
hydrok9 wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Looks like I had my games confused. The Forge was supposed to be a faction for Armageddon's Blade, but was cancelled. 3do did rush heroes 4 though, and one of the biggest complaints about it is how bland and lifeless it feels compared to 3. If you haven't already, you should try the Horn of the Abyss mod for Heroes 3. It's great! Adds tons of qol stuff and has a new campaign and faction.

I may do that, thanks for the recommendation! I loved Heroes 3 growing up and it's been a long time since I've played it. Might be a great time to boot it up again.

www.hota.acidcave.net

Re: VCMI: Open-Source Engine for Heroes of Might and Magic III

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Post by chrysoprace »

stavros wrote: post #69
nathell wrote: post #11

I still spend inordinate amounts of time playing Heroes 3. It’s been a strong procrastination feeder over the decades, but it also gave me a lot of fun! I mostly play HotA in HD Mod these days, but I had used VCMI on Android (with SoD). It’s been a bit rough – the client-server thing that it does would have connection issues, the mechanics differed in subtle ways, etc. But I’m also super grateful that it exists.

Try Songs of Conquest. It captures the original feel 100% for me, and is a game I really enjoy.

It's got some real potential, here's hoping they actually finish it as I've been burnt on Early Access before.

Re: VCMI: Open-Source Engine for Heroes of Might and Magic III

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Post by stavros »

chrysoprace wrote: post #89
stavros wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Try Songs of Conquest. It captures the original feel 100% for me, and is a game I really enjoy.

It's got some real potential, here's hoping they actually finish it as I've been burnt on Early Access before.

Isn't it already extremely playable? I've been playing it on and off, though I don't know if half the campaign is missing.
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