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Re: OpenTF is now OpenTofu

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Is OpenTofu also planning to maintain the language server (terraform-ls) or is that not within the scope ? I was not able to find any language server related repository.

The language server is still MPL licensed. Not sure if that's slated for a change but I'm sure they can always fork if/when that happens.

Re: OpenTF is now OpenTofu

#203

It's a cute name, but as a consultant, I don't think this is going to help me convince technology leaders to adopt this project over Terraform.

I think one needs to see if there are bug fixes and it keeps up with the evolution of technology over time.

Re: OpenTF is now OpenTofu

#204

The criticism of hashicorp seems childish. Why shouldn't they restrict the way in which companies make money from their inventions as they see fit? There's a lot of thoughtless entitlement among some of the attitudes being expressed in this debate.

This discussion ship has sailed.

Don't try to silence people. If you have nothing substantive to say then say nothing.

Re: OpenTF is now OpenTofu

#205

Are there any official statements about the cloud vendors' support or non-support for OpenTofu?

Bigger players naturally take longer to reach decisions for projects that are not their own, so it's only natural to see some caution on their end. It would be premature to announce anything at this point but I can just say that "good things come to those who wait".

Re: OpenTF is now OpenTofu

#206

As a total outsider, what's wrong with "TF"? Doesn't a penis picture as a github symbol rather bother anyone?

It's more practical and less hilarious. There is a thing called acronym, abbreviation, or initialism copyright. For Hashicorp's Terraform, "TF" is a well recognized abbreviation. Hashicorp can't prohibit anyone from using "TF" in all areas, but it can argue that "OpenTF" confuses users that expect anything "TF" to mean "Terraform". You can probably create a "OpenTF juice maker" without problem but OpenTofu especifica…

I see, thanks.

Re: OpenTF is now OpenTofu

#207

I believe Dave McJannet, HashiCorp's CEO, should be concerned. OpenTofu has garnered massive support, with the project gaining admission to the Linux Foundation and even receiving public support from companies like Allianz. Within HashiCorp, the CEO has fostered a toxic culture characterized by a large workforce that strives to do as little as possible, relying solely on the dedication of a few committed employees, m…

> OpenTofu has garnered massive support, with the project gaining admission to the Linux Foundation and even receiving public support from companies like Allianz. I don't know. It feels like this support comes from the vocal minority and competitors. I'll believe such a statement when more big multinational companies show support. Right now, I don't believe there is as much support as is currently made out.

There are around 19 full-time engineers staffed for the project from various companies. That is a lot more engineers than HashiCorp themselves had developing Terraform at the time of the license change.

Re: OpenTF is now OpenTofu

#208

The criticism of hashicorp seems childish. Why shouldn't they restrict the way in which companies make money from their inventions as they see fit? There's a lot of thoughtless entitlement among some of the attitudes being expressed in this debate.

HashiCorp is free to make money, but to take the work on community contributors and relicense it for its own gain is the biggest scam an "open source" company can commit. HashiCorp's inability to license their software effectively is what got them into this mess. Instead of using a license like the AGPL, they left themselves open to this attack. Why would you have sympathy for a company that dug their own grave?

Re: OpenTF is now OpenTofu

#209

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> OpenTofu has garnered massive support, with the project gaining admission to the Linux Foundation and even receiving public support from companies like Allianz. I don't know. It feels like this support comes from the vocal minority and competitors. I'll believe such a statement when more big multinational companies show support. Right now, I don't believe there is as much support as is currently made out.

There are around 19 full-time engineers staffed for the project from various companies. That is a lot more engineers than HashiCorp themselves had developing Terraform at the time of the license change.

> There are around 19 full-time engineers staffed for the project from various companies

Various companies being all HashiCorp competitors: https://opentofu.org/supporters

Re: OpenTF is now OpenTofu

#210

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"OpenTofu" is cute, but tofu has nothing to do with terraforming. How about "Genesis" or "Reliant" or "Marcus" or "Kruge"?

It's a nice pun and at the same time is close to the original, which would help Terraform users recognize the brand. Your suggestions are nice, but less recognizable in that way. Maybe we can take that pun to extreme though! If they ever have a designer that can come up with some crazy lore of terraforming with tofu that would be really really awesome. But I think they have more pressing matters right now.

The current (yellow cube) logo is genius though! It's like they took the Terraform logo, which to me looks like a cube that has fallen apart, and put it back together into a cute little cube of tofu.
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