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Re: OpenTF is now OpenTofu

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Post by simbolit »

po9 wrote: post #70
Mashimo wrote: post #67

The link and github does not tell much what OpenTofu is. So I opened the official website. Again very hard to find out what it actually is. Goals and why it was created, and a hundred times that it's a fork of another product. But still does not explain what it is or does. I had to open the website of what it was forked from.

Doesn't the heading say 'The open source infrastructure as code tool' on loading https://opentofu.org/ ?

Yeah, but what is 'infrastructure as code'? For anyone not already in the know, this phrase doesn't mean "managing and provisioning data centers through machine-readable definition files, rather than physical hardware configuration or interactive configuration tools." (quote from Wikipedia), it just means nothing at all.

Re: OpenTF is now OpenTofu

#92

Post by stock_toaster »

midoridensha wrote: post #35
cube2222 wrote: post #10

Hey! Interim tech lead of OpenTofu here. I'd like to add that as of today (announced just now at OSS Bilbao) we're officially part of the Linux Foundation[0]! Hope you like the new name (it basically won the votes anywhere it was proposed) and happy to answer any questions! [0]: https://www.linuxfoundation.org/press/announcing-opentofu

"OpenTofu" is cute, but tofu has nothing to do with terraforming. How about "Genesis" or "Reliant" or "Marcus" or "Kruge"?

More aspirational… call it Mars

Re: OpenTF is now OpenTofu

#93

Post by bilalq »

What are OpenTofu's plans around CDKTF? Will that only work with HashiCorp TF going forward? Or will that be forked as well?

Terraform is a better foundational layer than CloudFormation, but CDK is by far the better level of abstraction, I believe. AWS CDK is decent, but it is of course limited to AWS. CDKTF was one of the more interesting initiatives in this space.

Re: OpenTF is now OpenTofu

#94

Post by simbolit »

viraptor wrote: post #73
fishnchips wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think this [0] may be what the OP meant. [0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Plan_for_the_Transform...

Or the global warming. In a few years we'll be able to say that's deliberate if we continue.

In relative terms, co2 emissions have gone up >50% since Kyoto; in absolute terms, we have emitted more co2 since Kyoto than in all of history before.

I'd argue your "in a few years" was like 2018 or 2019 or so.

Re: OpenTF is now OpenTofu

#95

Post by tacticus »

echelon wrote: post #57
notpushkin wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

By the way, are there any plans for taking on other HashiCorp products as well? (Packer and Nomad are of particular interest to me :-)

The dismantling of HashiCorp because they tried to save themselves from Amazon swallowing them is sad. Open Source businesses have no future in a world where big tech can gulp your product for free. The OpenTofu folks will probably even raise capital to support commercialization of their thing at some point.

> The dismantling of HashiCorp because they tried to save themselves from Amazon swallowing them is sad.

save themselves from others building a less shit version of terraform cloud.

Re: OpenTF is now OpenTofu

#96

Post by thecosmicfrog »

midoridensha wrote: post #35
cube2222 wrote: post #10

Hey! Interim tech lead of OpenTofu here. I'd like to add that as of today (announced just now at OSS Bilbao) we're officially part of the Linux Foundation[0]! Hope you like the new name (it basically won the votes anywhere it was proposed) and happy to answer any questions! [0]: https://www.linuxfoundation.org/press/announcing-opentofu

"OpenTofu" is cute, but tofu has nothing to do with terraforming. How about "Genesis" or "Reliant" or "Marcus" or "Kruge"?

He tasks me... He tasks me and I shall have him!

Re: OpenTF is now OpenTofu

#97

Post by throwawayllaq »

thefilmore wrote: post #90
cube2222 wrote: post #10

Hey! Interim tech lead of OpenTofu here. I'd like to add that as of today (announced just now at OSS Bilbao) we're officially part of the Linux Foundation[0]! Hope you like the new name (it basically won the votes anywhere it was proposed) and happy to answer any questions! [0]: https://www.linuxfoundation.org/press/announcing-opentofu

Why not OpenTransform?

Wny OpenTransform?

Re: OpenTF is now OpenTofu

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Post by throwawayllaq »

fishnchips wrote: post #82
notpushkin wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a nice pun and at the same time is close to the original, which would help Terraform users recognize the brand. Your suggestions are nice, but less recognizable in that way. Maybe we can take that pun to extreme though! If they ever have a designer that can come up with some crazy lore of terraforming with tofu that would be really really awesome. But I think they have more pressing matters right now.

> designer that can come up with some crazy lore of terraforming with tofu I have a feeling that the designer may find it... challenging.

I can imagine a piece of tofu with robotic arms terraforming stuff. Pretty easy.

Or a globe with a tofu on top. Make the tofu evil/insane and create a story it wants to transform every plant in tofu.

Re: OpenTF is now OpenTofu

#99

Post by throwawayllaq »

verve_rat wrote: post #76
politelemon wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably worth editing and explaining the references, I didn't get it at all. Not all of us hang around here 24/7/365/2023.

Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan.

I just read the plot and now I understand the reference.

So it was a clever comment but not particularly a joke (maybe a not so good one?)

Re: OpenTF is now OpenTofu

#100

Post by thih9 »

rob74 wrote: post #64
notpushkin wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cute punny name, I like it. Congrats on joining the LF, and keep up the good work!

[flagged]

What about people who don’t like Cocoa, CherryPY, CakePHP, BaCon (lesser known Basic to C converter), or other tools with names related to food?

We can’t accommodate everyone’s food preferences.

To make everyone happy I guess we’d have to call it Chef, and we can’t do that either.

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