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YouTube blocks Russell Brand from making money through its platform

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>The US has a tradition in rule of law, and it’s a social convention that applies broadly. ??? You are conflating all the different legal systems of the US. US criminal law is the one of beyond reasonable doubt. US civil law on the other hand is an entire other bag of worms and 'potential' contractual obligations. On top of that private property has a pretty massive leeway in reasons you can ban people from said prop…

If the policy is “Fuck you, your tie sucks”, then that should be written into the policy. YouTube’s policy does not say “Fuck your, your tie sucks.” They say they remove people for harm to users. But there are many creators who harm users who are not being removed. So that is not the policy. They can easily fixing this by changing the policy to “fuck you, your tie sucks” or “we ban for any reason at our discretion.”…

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Re: YouTube blocks Russell Brand from making money through its platform

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Off-topic, I think, writing this down to see if the logic is sound: If YouTube can demonetise a content creator at the discretion of YouTube (because they can), then surely it follows that an individual can de-monetise a content creator at their own discretion (because they can). A platform demonetising someone is surely of much greater impact than an individual doing it. A platform owns their platform, from which th…

I’m not following…what would it mean in practice if I, as an individual, decided to demonetize him?

Re: YouTube blocks Russell Brand from making money through its platform

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There are no actual charges against him. Nobody has said under oath that anything has happened. The most recent allegation is for something that happened 10 years ago.

I'm of the opinion (and I know the law disagrees with me in the U.S.) that you should not be able to bring charges against someone for a non capital offense, where all the evidence is he-said/she-said. a decade after the event happend. Our memories just aren't good enough for that.

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> “If a creator’s off-platform behavior harms our users, employees or ecosystem, we take action to protect the community,” the spokeswoman said. Putting aside the validity of the accusations—let's say he did everything he's accused of, for the sake of argument—is Youtube alleging that he assaulted Youtube employees, app developers who use the Youtube ecosystem, or Youtube users? I assume the latter. But the thing is,…

>so what the heck does that even mean?

It means they'll ban anyone who is high profile enough to expose YouTube to PR risk.

Re: YouTube blocks Russell Brand from making money through its platform

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They’ve calculated that this is the right business decision. There is never anything more than that with corporations.

The government may offer them "advice" now and then as well. If I was running the American regime, I'd want him deplatformed due to his content.

Given the whole First Amendment thing the USA has had for a hot minute now, I suspect not. Baseless speculation aside, if you have genuine examples of this occurring, please show the class.

Re: YouTube blocks Russell Brand from making money through its platform

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> “If a creator’s off-platform behavior harms our users, employees or ecosystem, we take action to protect the community,” the spokeswoman said. Putting aside the validity of the accusations—let's say he did everything he's accused of, for the sake of argument—is Youtube alleging that he assaulted Youtube employees, app developers who use the Youtube ecosystem, or Youtube users? I assume the latter. But the thing is,…

All these actions will eventually lead to the birth of another video platform.

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Your observation underscores a fundamental challenge in public discourse: determining which contributions substantively further a conversation. While the repeated mentions of "innocent until proven guilty" or instances that may appear as victim-blaming can feel redundant or unproductive to some, for others, these comments might encapsulate deeply held beliefs or concerns. Recognizing this, it's crucial to appreciate…

do AI-generated comments add to the discussion?

More so than snarky rhetorical questions and baseless accusations, I’d wager. But, by all means, let’s elevate the discussion.

Re: YouTube blocks Russell Brand from making money through its platform

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Like every social media platform the "community guidelines" are written to be purposely subjective and vague, such that the enforcement of the guidelines can be done arbitrarily, per the whim of the company and their agents.

Not just social media. Stripe and Square have similar wiggle-room and it's a demonization felt pretty directly. Amazon, Etsy and others - their policies give room to pick and choose winners - and change policy on a whim - and apply it inconsistently. Corporate Overlords don't have to engage on Rights - it's all in the Privilege realm.

Good way to piss off some people and encourage competitors. We need business reform, they do nothing in society to be deserving of authority in any measure.

Re: YouTube blocks Russell Brand from making money through its platform

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> “If a creator’s off-platform behavior harms our users, employees or ecosystem, we take action to protect the community,” the spokeswoman said. Putting aside the validity of the accusations—let's say he did everything he's accused of, for the sake of argument—is Youtube alleging that he assaulted Youtube employees, app developers who use the Youtube ecosystem, or Youtube users? I assume the latter. But the thing is,…

Allegedly. If a bunch of people come forward accusing you of assault, odds are pretty good you did it. However, private businesses punishing people for having charges brought against them but not yet tried? That's judge, jury and executioner, which is incompatible with the set of laws that the US is built on - for which the source material was English Law, and precedent even older than that. So an American company pr…

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