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YouTube blocks Russell Brand from making money through its platform

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Re: YouTube blocks Russell Brand from making money through its platform

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YT most certainly runs ads against demonetized content. They just don't share in the take with the creator. What a principled stance... "I will make even more money because you did something bad somewhere else!"

The user in question can take out its content at any time as well too.

If they're blocked?

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The Monetization Window is the new Overton Window. I think people underestimate how much Youtube's monetization policy influences what popular creators put in videos. Because it's not just the money - it also effects how videos are promoted by the algorithm.

It interesting seeing Mr Beast talk about AB testing thumbnails — his old style was apparently not actually what the algorithm wanted but he'd never tested it properly.

Re: YouTube blocks Russell Brand from making money through its platform

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My understanding is that when a channel's content is not monetized, no ads are displayed. So no, YouTube is not pocketing the money they would have paid him.

YT most certainly runs ads against demonetized content. They just don't share in the take with the creator. What a principled stance... "I will make even more money because you did something bad somewhere else!"

That's not how any of this works.

1. YouTube can show ads BETWEEN videos and keep 100% of the money.

2. YouTube runs ads WITHIN videos if owner "monetizes", and shares the profit.

3. Creators run "promotions" within their videos and keep 100% of the money.

They only stopped #2. Both YouTube and Brand are still both making money off brands videos on YouTube.

Re: YouTube blocks Russell Brand from making money through its platform

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> “If a creator’s off-platform behavior harms our users, employees or ecosystem, we take action to protect the community,” the spokeswoman said. Putting aside the validity of the accusations—let's say he did everything he's accused of, for the sake of argument—is Youtube alleging that he assaulted Youtube employees, app developers who use the Youtube ecosystem, or Youtube users? I assume the latter. But the thing is,…

I believe this is about protecting the ecosystem. YT has basically stopped ads from playing on his content…no advertiser wants to be associated with him right now. If YT didn’t take this action, it’s likely advertisers would pull back on spend because they don’t want to risk being seen along side his content.

YouTube, afaik, doesn’t just let advertisers blacklist individual channels.

Re: YouTube blocks Russell Brand from making money through its platform

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> “If a creator’s off-platform behavior harms our users, employees or ecosystem, we take action to protect the community,” the spokeswoman said. Putting aside the validity of the accusations—let's say he did everything he's accused of, for the sake of argument—is Youtube alleging that he assaulted Youtube employees, app developers who use the Youtube ecosystem, or Youtube users? I assume the latter. But the thing is,…

They’ve calculated that this is the right business decision. There is never anything more than that with corporations.

The government may offer them "advice" now and then as well. If I was running the American regime, I'd want him deplatformed due to his content.

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I doubt YouTube worries about being demonetized by advertisers at this point. Where exactly will this advertisers go to advertise on long form videos otherwise?

> I doubt YouTube worries about being demonetized by advertisers at this point. They've been the target of that twice at least, in 2017 over hate speech [1], in 2019 over pedos[2]. Large brands spend insane amounts of money on advertising, and they do not want their content to appear next to people facing allegations of sexual misconduct or otherwise bad behavior. Hell just look at Twitter and how much advertising in…

At this point I can't tell if Musk sustained a brain injury/infection at some recent date, or he had a handler that was keeping him from touching pointy things and they quit or he fired them and now we're getting unfiltered Musk all day every day.

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Everything would be overrun by spam. Even 4chan moderates spam and ads.

4chan moderates far more than just spam/ads. They remove child pornography. They comply with DMCA. They ban entire countries.

Further to my point that even sights held up as "free speech zones" would be functionally broken without any moderation.

Re: YouTube blocks Russell Brand from making money through its platform

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why are they never nervous when they outright betray the demographics they should be pandering to? latest examples would be the bud light and target fiascos

"betray" in this context meaning advertise to LGBT people?

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Re: YouTube blocks Russell Brand from making money through its platform

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Did I read this correctly? It sounds like YouTube will continue to host his content, but will now pocket the money they would have paid him. That doesn't seem right to me. If they were to cease hosting his material, that would maych their corporate-speak blurb. This sounds to me like more money for YouTube.

My understanding is that when a channel's content is not monetized, no ads are displayed. So no, YouTube is not pocketing the money they would have paid him.

unless they changed things, last year YT made it impossible to not display ads on your videos even if you wanted to let people watch your videos without ads

Re: YouTube blocks Russell Brand from making money through its platform

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> “If a creator’s off-platform behavior harms our users, employees or ecosystem, we take action to protect the community,” the spokeswoman said. Putting aside the validity of the accusations—let's say he did everything he's accused of, for the sake of argument—is Youtube alleging that he assaulted Youtube employees, app developers who use the Youtube ecosystem, or Youtube users? I assume the latter. But the thing is,…

Allegedly. If a bunch of people come forward accusing you of assault, odds are pretty good you did it. However, private businesses punishing people for having charges brought against them but not yet tried? That's judge, jury and executioner, which is incompatible with the set of laws that the US is built on - for which the source material was English Law, and precedent even older than that. So an American company pr…

By the definition of "punish" that you are implicitly using, private businesses in America used to be able to punish people for anything ("we reserve the right to refuse service to anybody"). Now there are certain things they cannot punish people for (e.g. being black). Are you suggesting that the time has come to mandate that companies may not discriminate against customers for other reasons as well?
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