Evidence mounts on toxic pollution from tires

Post by kazinator » Tue, Sep 19, 2023, 11:42 PM UTC

ejb999 wrote: post #29

and unfortunately, EV's are worse than ICE cars of similar size, because of the extra weight - so they can go thru tires 30% faster. "Increased tire wear can also contribute to air quality issues. In Oslo, Norway, where electric vehicles make two-thirds of registered vehicles but a higher proportion of traffic, the "air has unhealthy levels of microscopic particles generated partly by the abrasion of tires and asphal…

Post by kazinator » Tue, Sep 19, 2023, 11:44 PM UTC

haileys wrote: post #77

hankman86 wrote: post #62

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Then again, EVs often use regenerative breaking (“one pedal driving”). I have made it a habit to engage this as often as possible, avoiding to use the brakes. I wonder if this results in fewer sharp stops and is easier on the tyres. What car owners (EV or otherwise) can do to relieve their conscience is to use tyres with the smallest possible dimensions. This should reduce the amount of particle emissions from tyre a…

> What car owners (EV or otherwise) can do to relieve their conscience is to use tyres with the smallest possible dimensions Even better would be to drive the car less and use an e-bike for most trips instead. Most bike tyres weigh less in total than the annual emissions of a set of car tyres according to the article.

Post by nvy » Tue, Sep 19, 2023, 11:47 PM UTC

hedora wrote: post #72

swader999 wrote: post #7

So maybe not the best material for playgrounds.

Kids that play soccer goalie on astroturf fields (ground up tire base) have an absurdly high cancer rate. But, causation is hard to prove in court, so cancer for kids it is!

Post by foxes » Wed, Sep 20, 2023, 12:01 AM UTC

hedora wrote: post #71

foxes wrote: post #36

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Yeah because having some small passive argument is really going to change things? Yes it’s fairly obvious we need them in some situations (you carry equipment on a farm). But fixing the car problem is going to take proper activism and a greater push given it has such inertia and driving is so embedded. Not to mention corporate interests trying to preserve it.

Also, we’d need to demolish lots of buildings, including whole towns. Buildings and construction have 2x the environmental impact of cars.

Post by robertlagrant » Wed, Sep 20, 2023, 12:19 AM UTC

notacoward wrote: post #41

robertlagrant wrote: post #35

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But I'm 23 with no family in Amsterdam with a remote role and I get around on a bike just fine?

How did that bike get to you? How did the food get to your grocery store before you rode there? (Hint: it's not trains and boats. Go watch the traffic on a highway some time and you'll be disabused of that notion.) How did all of the transport involved in your furniture's manufacture and final delivery occur? Even if we completely got rid of passenger cars, there would still be plenty of tires on the road and there w…