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Evidence mounts on toxic pollution from tires

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Re: Evidence mounts on toxic pollution from tires

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Post by hedora »

foxes wrote: post #36
notacoward wrote: post #26

There will be mostly two kinds of response to this article. (1) Cars and trucks are evil, get rid of them. (2) Too bad, nothing we can do, get over it. Neither is helpful. We're going to need lots of tires for a long time. Trains don't (and can't) go everywhere. Bikes can't carry everything, and any imaginable bike that could would have the exact same problem. Trucks of all kinds, and buses, are indispensable and nee…

Yeah because having some small passive argument is really going to change things? Yes it’s fairly obvious we need them in some situations (you carry equipment on a farm). But fixing the car problem is going to take proper activism and a greater push given it has such inertia and driving is so embedded. Not to mention corporate interests trying to preserve it.

Also, we’d need to demolish lots of buildings, including whole towns. Buildings and construction have 2x the environmental impact of cars.

Re: Evidence mounts on toxic pollution from tires

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Post by callalex »

Freedom2 wrote: post #44
sp332 wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Tesla Model 3 "Standard Range Plus" weighs less than the lightest Ford F150 trim. (3,600 pounds vs 4,000)

That doesn't seem likely, F150s are built to be light and agile, as well as environmental friendly.

Basic facts don’t seem likely? Or am I just missing your sarcasm?

Re: Evidence mounts on toxic pollution from tires

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Post by WendyTheWillow »

ars wrote: post #60
WendyTheWillow wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While it may be a full time job, keeping toxic materials out of your child's mouth is one of the primary responsibilities of a parent. This is not a high bar.

If a playground has toxic material, then the playground is doing it wrong, not the parent. And yes, it's a full time job (at certain ages), and no it's hardly the primary responsibility, it's one of many.

If your child is putting part of the playground into their mouth, you are doing it wrong, not the playground.

And I think you misread; I said it was one of the primary responsibilities of a parent to keep toxic things out of your child's mouth.

Re: Evidence mounts on toxic pollution from tires

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Post by WendyTheWillow »

washadjeffmad wrote: post #50
WendyTheWillow wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While it may be a full time job, keeping toxic materials out of your child's mouth is one of the primary responsibilities of a parent. This is not a high bar.

Oh, get a grip. If parenting was really critical for their development, then it would be on my infant's YouTube playlist.

I think there's a Bluey episode about not eating the recycled tires on the playground...

Re: Evidence mounts on toxic pollution from tires

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Post by haileys »

hankman86 wrote: post #62
ejb999 wrote: post #29

and unfortunately, EV's are worse than ICE cars of similar size, because of the extra weight - so they can go thru tires 30% faster. "Increased tire wear can also contribute to air quality issues. In Oslo, Norway, where electric vehicles make two-thirds of registered vehicles but a higher proportion of traffic, the "air has unhealthy levels of microscopic particles generated partly by the abrasion of tires and asphal…

Then again, EVs often use regenerative breaking (“one pedal driving”). I have made it a habit to engage this as often as possible, avoiding to use the brakes. I wonder if this results in fewer sharp stops and is easier on the tyres. What car owners (EV or otherwise) can do to relieve their conscience is to use tyres with the smallest possible dimensions. This should reduce the amount of particle emissions from tyre a…

> What car owners (EV or otherwise) can do to relieve their conscience is to use tyres with the smallest possible dimensions

Even better would be to drive the car less and use an e-bike for most trips instead. Most bike tyres weigh less in total than the annual emissions of a set of car tyres according to the article.

Re: Evidence mounts on toxic pollution from tires

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Post by GuB-42 »

liquidpele wrote: post #66
friend_and_foe wrote: post #51

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The tires themselves are pretty inert, it's the constant road friction tearing off tiny little pieces of it and spewing it intot he air that's the problem. I wouldn't worry about using tires as building material.

mmmm, wouldn’t say they’re inert… https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osborne_Reef

The article doesn't say the tires are not inert.

It says that the stuff they use to hold the tires in place didn't hold. So instead of a nice reef, you had thousands of lose tires smashing marine life that tried to settle there.

Re: Evidence mounts on toxic pollution from tires

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Post by tzs »

liquidpele wrote: post #66
friend_and_foe wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The tires themselves are pretty inert, it's the constant road friction tearing off tiny little pieces of it and spewing it intot he air that's the problem. I wouldn't worry about using tires as building material.

mmmm, wouldn’t say they’re inert… https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osborne_Reef

That looks like it failed because the bands that were supposed to keep the bundles of tires together corroded. The tires then were free to move around in the currents, which destroyed any life that had been growing on them and prevented any new life from attaching. It also let them collide with natural reefs and damage them.

Re: Evidence mounts on toxic pollution from tires

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Post by za3faran »

I'm constantly astounded at the way roads are laid out in many areas. Dumb traffic signals that turn red even when the road is empty, stop signs that can easily be replaced with yield signs, and much more. Low hanging fruit. But there are people who are just interested in talking, not fixing things.
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