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We are retroactively dropping the iPhone’s repairability score

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Re: We are retroactively dropping the iPhone’s repairability score

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Post by ryanluker »

diabeetusman wrote: post #49
s3p wrote: post #7

Reminds me of a Louis Rossman video [0] where he shares his frustration with Apple's independent repair shop program. He says that to get access to genuine Apple parts (and the ability to pair them to devices), Apple requires that his shop not be able to do certain things like fix a broken angle detection sensor. It's utter BS, and the lip service companies are paying to right-to-repair bills in state legislatures ho…

Sorry, which video? Your [0] doesn't go anywhere :)

Might have been this video? Sometimes Rossman's videos ain't easy to search for, hah. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHhGBvfGams

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Post by paulmd »

skeaker wrote: post #79
abtinf wrote: post #43

This is another dishonest post by Kyle and iFixit. The failure to mention a critical a reason for pairing—theft prevention—is enough to dismiss the entire piece as hopelessly biased. Just a few years ago, every major news source had an article every other week sounding the alarms about the smartphone theft problem. They would universally blame the phone manufacturers for not doing more.

If the solution to theft is "remotely brick parts that work perfectly," it is a shitty solution that doesn't deserve consideration. Doubly so when Apple's workaround for that is "pay us even more money to double the e-waste by having us send you another perfectly working part, but ~verified~!"

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Re: We are retroactively dropping the iPhone’s repairability score

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Post by mschuster91 »

exabrial wrote: post #141
mschuster91 wrote: post #6

There is also another issue why Apple is restricting "part harvesting": theft. iCloud locks or Samsung's KNOX lock entered the field because the manufacturers were pretty pissed that customers using their devices in public became a target for "enterprising" robbers who'd factory-wipe the devices and flip them to a pawn shop or second-hand store in a matter of half an hour. When people are afraid to use your products…

I'm sorry, but I think this is Bullshit. Litreally _exactly_ how many people were robbed and please point us to a source?

In 2022, there was a phone theft every six minutes in London [1], for example.

[1] https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-65105199

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Post by rasz »

paulmd wrote: post #276
rasz wrote: post #273

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But you do know that apple authorized service center service is often worse because instead of reflowing components they go for stuffing your device with shoe rubber to push chips with defective connections tighter to the pcb? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaGHcBZjmWA

> But you do know that apple authorized service center service is often worse it seems incredibly dishonest to frame that as being something that happens often. can you provide statistics about how many apple authorized repairs come back with shoe rubber inside? like if I go to a best buy for apple authorized service, you're telling me they have a big box of shoe rubber in the back they're using for repairs? Doubt.

Best Buy doenst repair anything, they sent it to Apple Houston, Texas repair center (CSAT sweatshop), those are the guys putting rubber because its faster than soldering.

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Post by mschuster91 »

pierat wrote: post #125
mschuster91 wrote: post #6

There is also another issue why Apple is restricting "part harvesting": theft. iCloud locks or Samsung's KNOX lock entered the field because the manufacturers were pretty pissed that customers using their devices in public became a target for "enterprising" robbers who'd factory-wipe the devices and flip them to a pawn shop or second-hand store in a matter of half an hour. When people are afraid to use your products…

How much were you paid to shill Apple for this top post? If this were a real issue, then I as the device owner should be able to toggle this on and off as needed. But that hits deeper, since this is a device that's being sold as "purchase" when I don't have real control - Apple does. At best, this is a rental being mis-advertised as a purchase.

> How much were you paid to shill Apple for this top post?

Unfortunately, I don't get paid by anyone except my employer lol. 16k HN and 160k Reddit karma points in about a decade isn't exactly influencer-worthy.

> If this were a real issue, then I as the device owner should be able to toggle this on and off as needed.

Phone theft is a real issue, even in places not suffering from open street markets with people fencing stolen shit, like London [1].

[1] https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-65105199

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Post by fortran77 »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #256
fortran77 wrote: post #237

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes! On my travel checklist I have "REMOVE BROKERAGE APPS FROM PHONE"

Unless you are a day trader, I do not see a reason to ever have them on your phone.

You're probably right. I rebalance my account 4 times/year. I'm thinking it may be best to have one "secure PC" that I do my balancing on, and even remove the passwords from my password manager.

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Post by Casteil »

natymad wrote: post #166

I completely fail to understand the anti-theft argument, help me out here. So the theory is that, once thieves will see you're carrying an Iphone, they won't bother taking it. But why? You're already being mugged, everything that's even remotely valuable will be taken. Why would they let their victims go, just because their valuables are more difficult to flip? "Give me all your valuables - oh wait, that's an iphone,…

> You're already being mugged

A lot of phone thefts are quick pickpocketing/snatch-and-run, or snatch-off-a table, not some Hollywood "stick-em-up, give me everything you have" type of situation.

People target expensive phones, period.. but having fewer ways to turn those stolen phones into enough money to justify the risk means people will be less inclined to directly target them (especially when other brands' expensive flagship phones may be easier).

Similar concept in general physical security/theft deterrent, really.. put up a bigger challenge than others in your vicinity and you're less likely to be targeted.

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Post by mortureb »

mcphage wrote: post #269
mortureb wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The parts talk to each other so not really for the last generation or two.

Isn't that what this is all about, though? The parts talk to each other, so they can't be disassembled and sold off—but since they talk to each other, it makes it harder to get them working after a repair?

Yes but they’re useless in a Chinese chop shop. You can’t Frankenstein the parts together.

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Post by lazycouchpotato »

shortcake27 wrote: post #86
ejstronge wrote: post #60

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> (If anyone at Apple is reading this: ffs, allow the legitimate owner of a device to "unpair" all components in their phone in iCloud so that legitimate second-hand shops can strip a broken device at least for its parts) I was robbed at gunpoint (but not in a 'problematic' part of town) and the thief outlined all the steps he needed me to take to remove my phone from Find My and from iCloud. I think a lot of these m…

I’m sorry that happened to you. IMHO this is a huge problem. A thief just wants to steal your phone. To ensure the value of the device, it’s now common to force you to provide your passcode. This gives access to all your data, can be used to reset your Apple ID password, lock you out of your account, and erase and lock all your other devices. This problem never existed before, and it’s significantly worse! Like, way…

They don't need to force anyone to do anything. They can just shoulder surf you entering your PIN.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUYODQB_2wQ

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Post by dang »

paulmd wrote: post #282
skeaker wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the solution to theft is "remotely brick parts that work perfectly," it is a shitty solution that doesn't deserve consideration. Doubly so when Apple's workaround for that is "pay us even more money to double the e-waste by having us send you another perfectly working part, but ~verified~!"

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