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The Pirate Bay's 20th Anniversary

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Re: The Pirate Bay's 20th Anniversary

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Post by grotorea »

seanw444 wrote: post #48
grotorea wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would you be happier if people were having their guttural reactions to the people involved in creating or using cryptocurrency instead of the technology itself? Would it make a difference?

Yes. Be mad at the people using it to scam people. Not everyone is.

Cryptocurrency has a lot more negatives than just scams. This thread started because of it increasing prices for drives. Do you think whoever created Chia, decided to attempt to profit by mining it, or attempted to profit by speculating on it is not responsible for those consequences?

Re: The Pirate Bay's 20th Anniversary

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Post by arp242 »

janvdberg wrote: post #11

Side-note: I will always be in awe of the BitTorrent protocol. A resilient and efficient piece of tech that at its height was responsible for LARGE amounts of internet traffic (facilitated by sites like the TPB) and was (mostly) developed by just one guy: Bram Cohen.

In 2007 I uploaded a rather obscure TV show to Demonoid, ripped from DVDs that were quite difficult to obtain and that I have long since lost.

A few months ago I downloaded it from TPB; somewhat to my surprise it was the same torrent I had uploaded 16 years ago.

I thought that was kinda neat. It's probably also the only way to watch this TV show, legal or otherwise. "Distributed cloud backup" I suppose :-)

(I do regret the childish and embarrassing comments in the README, which are also still alive after 16 years :-/ That's also why I'm not mentioning which TV show this is.)

Re: The Pirate Bay's 20th Anniversary

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Post by nortonham »

heymijo wrote: post #16
rgrmrts wrote: post #14

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Our school had a gnutella network on the campus network. It was incredibly fast, and some people were fairly prolific with their content upload reputations. E.g. I remember the highest quality Game of Thrones episodes being uploaded within minutes of them airing. Though my understanding was that Gnutella worked better than torrents because it was an incredible fast local network, i.e. our campus was connected with th…

DC++ was what we used across our school LAN back in the day.

hey us too! It was incredibly fast since we were on the uni's internet, and sharing with people all on the same campus. Was getting latest eps of TV shows and a huge variety of music faster than bitorrent was capable of

Re: The Pirate Bay's 20th Anniversary

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Post by jiofj »

xorcist wrote: post #75
jiofj wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

DHT is a protocol that allows peers to exchange data about torrents and peers; you can download the contents of a torrent by its hash instead of having to download a .torrent file and connect to a server to find peers. Kademlia is similar for eMule, only that it also allows search.

Kademlia, being a permissionless distributed search protocol, is also heavily polluted. Both by malware and people set out to make piracy harder. It's a hard problem.

Not my experience.

Re: The Pirate Bay's 20th Anniversary

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Post by noduerme »

NikolaNovak wrote: post #36
seanw444 wrote: post #18

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I've always found it odd that people have such guttural reactions to cryptocurrency. It's a technology. Calm down. It's become like politics now. "Fuck Republicans, fuck conservative nonsense." is what I'd expect to hear, not getting pissed over an algorithm. Kinda brings me comedic relief.

But politics impact me and my family and the world we live in. And some technologies do too! So it's natural and probably good to have thoughts and perspectives and positions on politics and technologies that impact me and my family and the world we live in (rather than be apathetic). Should we avoid polarization, and arguing by memes, absolutely! But like perpetual motion machine and eugenics and racism and trickle…

Hear, hear! And while we're on the subject, fuck Markov chains. It's abundantly clear that cause and effect are at the root of all our problems.

Re: The Pirate Bay's 20th Anniversary

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Post by 1970-01-01 »

1970-01-01 wrote: post #49

There was an article a long time ago about their oldest active torrent: "An episode of the Swedish comedy show “High Chaparral” has the honor of being the oldest torrent. The file was originally uploaded on March 25, 2004, and although it lists zero seeders in search results, there are still several people actively sharing the torrent." https://torrentfreak.com/pirate-bays-oldest-torrents-survive...

Sadly, 'kbdcb' is the only remaining seeder. The torrent may soon be lost to history.

hxxps://thepiratebay.org/description.php?id=3211594

Re: The Pirate Bay's 20th Anniversary

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Post by soulofmischief »

NikolaNovak wrote: post #36
seanw444 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've always found it odd that people have such guttural reactions to cryptocurrency. It's a technology. Calm down. It's become like politics now. "Fuck Republicans, fuck conservative nonsense." is what I'd expect to hear, not getting pissed over an algorithm. Kinda brings me comedic relief.

But politics impact me and my family and the world we live in. And some technologies do too! So it's natural and probably good to have thoughts and perspectives and positions on politics and technologies that impact me and my family and the world we live in (rather than be apathetic). Should we avoid polarization, and arguing by memes, absolutely! But like perpetual motion machine and eugenics and racism and trickle…

In any case, I think we can all agree that one shouldn't compare cryptocurrency to a perpetual motion machine. It's a real technology, with real utility for the people whose problems it solves.

Re: The Pirate Bay's 20th Anniversary

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Post by soulofmischief »

squarefoot wrote: post #59
seanw444 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've always found it odd that people have such guttural reactions to cryptocurrency. It's a technology. Calm down. It's become like politics now. "Fuck Republicans, fuck conservative nonsense." is what I'd expect to hear, not getting pissed over an algorithm. Kinda brings me comedic relief.

> I've always found it odd that people have such guttural reactions to cryptocurrency. Cryptocurrency has been used for a huge number of scams, and generally to allow criminals launder their money and do more easily their job. All of this, and more, at a huge environmental expense. Technically the concept is great, but the implementation and use has been mostly harmful so far.

It's only fair to then reflect on the almighty dollar and the scams, criminal deeds and atrocities which it has also enabled.

If you still find utility in the dollar bill after such reflection, then the argument doesn't hold up to cryptocurrency.

Re: The Pirate Bay's 20th Anniversary

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Post by r053bud »

seryoiupfurds wrote: post #80
r053bud wrote: post #58

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God forbid you fact check American mythology!

Lazy dismissal based on broad ideological grandstanding isn't "fact checking", although sadly many "fact checkers" don't seem to understand that.

No, I know. I needed to drop a /s in there and realized I'm not on Reddit.

Re: The Pirate Bay's 20th Anniversary

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Post by rakoo »

devoutsalsa wrote: post #29
jiofj wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

DHT is a protocol that allows peers to exchange data about torrents and peers; you can download the contents of a torrent by its hash instead of having to download a .torrent file and connect to a server to find peers. Kademlia is similar for eMule, only that it also allows search.

> you can download the contents of a torrent by its hash How are hash collisions resolved? I'd hate to think I'm downloading my favorite TV show & find that I've downloaded something that makes ma attract the attention of law enforcement.

It's sha1, collisions are unrealistic
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