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The Pirate Bay's 20th Anniversary

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Re: The Pirate Bay's 20th Anniversary

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Post by fragmede »

mortureb wrote: post #55
pjmorris wrote: post #42

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This seems like a great accomplishment; a design so good that others are inspired to implement it.

Not to diminish his contributions but the high level idea was relatively simple. Break a file into pieces and then reconstitute them using hashes. The devil really is in being able to actually implement that which he also did. Ashwin Navin was pivotal in getting it out there for people to use as well.

Splitting a file into parts predates BitTorrent by quite a while. Rare archives, with a parity chunk were being uploaded to alt.bin newsgroups for years if not decades before BitTorrent was ever released. It was the swarm upload feature which did it, allowed modem users, with poor upload speeds, to participate in uploading the file to everyone on the swarm that did it.

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Post by IntelMiner »

seanw444 wrote: post #18
automatic6131 wrote: post #17

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"Proof of Space-time" Oooh, what a fancy, high-falutin word for... writing bingo tickets to your SSD. Could more accurately be called "proof of bingo card", and then it doesn't infringe on actually interesting concepts, like relativistic physics. I remember when the new of Chia caused SSD prices to spike around the time I was buying, in the speculative fever for free money. At least it crashed, causing the Chia miner…

I've always found it odd that people have such guttural reactions to cryptocurrency. It's a technology. Calm down. It's become like politics now. "Fuck Republicans, fuck conservative nonsense." is what I'd expect to hear, not getting pissed over an algorithm. Kinda brings me comedic relief.

Except much like technology or politics it had real, measurable impacts on millions of people's lives, and not for the better

Hell the damage it's done to the planet alone should give most people pause

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Post by Frenchgeek »

jiofj wrote: post #5

The future has always been DHT, but having no built-in search feature like Kademlia is a huge oversight imo. There are websites that crawl DHT and you can search using them https://btdig.com but of course it would be better to have something decentralised.

https://github.com/nbdy/dhtc ?

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Post by _chu1 »

cmrdporcupine wrote: post #62
birracerveza wrote: post #61

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HN has developed some sort of allergy to cryptocurrency. Warranted or not, some users get really passionate whenever they see anything mentioning crypto, blockchain or web3.

Frankly, I have the same "allergy" and personal opposition and think it's really in the end all about money laundering and techno-libertarian-anarcho-capitalist naive bullshit. But I don't see any reason for this comment in particular to be downvoted.

As a believer in techno-libertarian-capitalism (not anarchism), I still think crypto and blockchains are bullshit and serve no fundamental purpose.

On one end, I do see the point of cryptocurrency as an anonymous payment method but on the other end, they have done nothing but cause me inconvenience, skyrocketing GPU and SSD prices just so they can use thousands of gigawatts of power to make $20 that will probably be down to $12 a couple hours later and pioneering the latest generation of bullshit technology that's taking grifters and AI bros by storm.

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Post by xorcist »

jiofj wrote: post #10
devoutsalsa wrote: post #8

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Me: What is DHT? Also Me: Distributed hash table. Me: Thanks. Also Me: You're welcome, but don't be too impressed. I googled it.

DHT is a protocol that allows peers to exchange data about torrents and peers; you can download the contents of a torrent by its hash instead of having to download a .torrent file and connect to a server to find peers. Kademlia is similar for eMule, only that it also allows search.

Kademlia, being a permissionless distributed search protocol, is also heavily polluted. Both by malware and people set out to make piracy harder. It's a hard problem.

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Post by OfSanguineFire »

heymijo wrote: post #16
rgrmrts wrote: post #14

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Our school had a gnutella network on the campus network. It was incredibly fast, and some people were fairly prolific with their content upload reputations. E.g. I remember the highest quality Game of Thrones episodes being uploaded within minutes of them airing. Though my understanding was that Gnutella worked better than torrents because it was an incredible fast local network, i.e. our campus was connected with th…

DC++ was what we used across our school LAN back in the day.

In Romania in the early millennium, my local ISP offered a DC++ server so that people in my city could share music and films with one another at lightning speed. (Besides the fact that piracy was simply part of Eastern European mass culture, it probably helped reduce their bandwidth costs to and from the wider world.). Alas, this ultimately disappeared due to ISP mergers and stricter enforcement.

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Post by 5350-uiop-1130 »

chrisco255 wrote: post #69
5350-uiop-1130 wrote: post #66

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> It's a technology. cryptocurrency is hated because it turns every action into a transaction. a system with mistrust as its core principle. where the enablement of scamming masquerades as freedom. basically thousands of incompatible pay-to-play messaging protocols all imbued with some pretty dark zero-sum incentives and fancy jargon

> basically a technology for transferring and swapping tokens whose value is based on speculation. So it's a market. Like double entry bookkeeping. Are you similarly triggered by NASDAQ or Quickbooks or point of sale systems that use Postgres instead of a blockchain? > its basically a pay-to-play messaging protocol with fancy jargon. It's a fee based messaging protocol with a demand based pricing mechanic for limited…

i'm not saying there's no merit in it.

just pointing out why I think people hate it and i think there are some valid reasons.

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Post by hotnfresh »

ramesh31 wrote: post #37
vuln wrote: post #6

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THE MAN IN THE ARENA It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actuall…

>Theodore Roosevelt Excerpt from the speech "Citizenship In A Republic" delivered at The Sorbonne Paris, France April 23, 1910 Yeah, he was also a rich guy born with a silver spoon, who never faced any actual adversity in life, and so spent his time fetishizing those who do, while LARPing as one of them in controlled environments. Read into his whole trip through South America; it's an absolute disgrace. The attitude…

Wikipedia, at least, reports something very different for San Juan Hill.

WP says the battle was over a ridge with a couple major peaks, and that the highest was indeed cleared and occupied by other soldiers the day before, but the following day Roosevelt’s troops (among others) did face real resistance taking the other major peak. It reads like the first day was rather more intense, but the second wasn’t exactly a cake-walk, and it definitely doesn’t read like they just walked up to an already-taken position.

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Post by seryoiupfurds »

r053bud wrote: post #58
ramesh31 wrote: post #43

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And my entire point being that that was dumb. It doesn't make him tough. It makes him an egomaniacal idiot to have not sought treatment.

God forbid you fact check American mythology!

Lazy dismissal based on broad ideological grandstanding isn't "fact checking", although sadly many "fact checkers" don't seem to understand that.
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