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Re: The Pirate Bay's 20th Anniversary

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Post by birracerveza »

cmrdporcupine wrote: post #52
wtf_is_up wrote: post #15

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Another Cohen project worth noting for its novelty is the Chia crypto network [1] which implements Proof of Space-Time. [1]: https://www.chia.net/about/

I've tried to upvote you back up not because I think Chia is anything good (looks like not) but because you are merely noting its existence and the novelty of it, etc. Don't kill the messenger, people. It doesn't help the discussion.

HN has developed some sort of allergy to cryptocurrency. Warranted or not, some users get really passionate whenever they see anything mentioning crypto, blockchain or web3.

Re: The Pirate Bay's 20th Anniversary

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Post by cmrdporcupine »

birracerveza wrote: post #61
cmrdporcupine wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've tried to upvote you back up not because I think Chia is anything good (looks like not) but because you are merely noting its existence and the novelty of it, etc. Don't kill the messenger, people. It doesn't help the discussion.

HN has developed some sort of allergy to cryptocurrency. Warranted or not, some users get really passionate whenever they see anything mentioning crypto, blockchain or web3.

Frankly, I have the same "allergy" and personal opposition and think it's really in the end all about money laundering and techno-libertarian-anarcho-capitalist naive bullshit. But I don't see any reason for this comment in particular to be downvoted.

Re: The Pirate Bay's 20th Anniversary

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Post by lloeki »

flangola7 wrote: post #28
jiofj wrote: post #5

The future has always been DHT, but having no built-in search feature like Kademlia is a huge oversight imo. There are websites that crawl DHT and you can search using them https://btdig.com but of course it would be better to have something decentralised.

How do you get the DHT without at least a centralized bootstrap?

query a known (or attempt reaching a previously known) peer

Re: The Pirate Bay's 20th Anniversary

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Post by spdgg »

ramesh31 wrote: post #37
vuln wrote: post #6

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THE MAN IN THE ARENA It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actuall…

>Theodore Roosevelt Excerpt from the speech "Citizenship In A Republic" delivered at The Sorbonne Paris, France April 23, 1910 Yeah, he was also a rich guy born with a silver spoon, who never faced any actual adversity in life, and so spent his time fetishizing those who do, while LARPing as one of them in controlled environments. Read into his whole trip through South America; it's an absolute disgrace. The attitude…

> Yeah, he was also a rich guy born with a silver spoon, who never faced any actual adversity in life, and so spent his time fetishizing those who do, while LARPing as one of them in controlled environments.

I am all for being critical of class-based inequalities but having resources does not exempt one from adversity. Very few people would consider someone who spent their whole childhood in debilitating sickness, someone who lost their wife and mother 2 days apart, rode western with cowboys through a winter in North Dakota as someone LARPing in controlled environments. Not all of this is romantic ideology. One can be born with a silver spoon and still experience the realities of life, the trauma of losing loved ones, prolonged sickness, etc. Saying that he "never faced any actual adversity" is black and white while being arguably wrong.

The Edmund Morris trilogy gives a good overview of his life for those interested.

Re: The Pirate Bay's 20th Anniversary

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Post by 5350-uiop-1130 »

seanw444 wrote: post #18
automatic6131 wrote: post #17

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"Proof of Space-time" Oooh, what a fancy, high-falutin word for... writing bingo tickets to your SSD. Could more accurately be called "proof of bingo card", and then it doesn't infringe on actually interesting concepts, like relativistic physics. I remember when the new of Chia caused SSD prices to spike around the time I was buying, in the speculative fever for free money. At least it crashed, causing the Chia miner…

I've always found it odd that people have such guttural reactions to cryptocurrency. It's a technology. Calm down. It's become like politics now. "Fuck Republicans, fuck conservative nonsense." is what I'd expect to hear, not getting pissed over an algorithm. Kinda brings me comedic relief.

> It's a technology.

cryptocurrency is hated because it turns every action into a transaction.

a system with mistrust as its core principle. where the enablement of scamming masquerades as freedom.

basically thousands of incompatible pay-to-play messaging protocols all imbued with some pretty dark zero-sum incentives and fancy jargon

Re: The Pirate Bay's 20th Anniversary

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Post by chrisco255 »

Brajeshwar wrote: post #19
janvdberg wrote: post #11

Side-note: I will always be in awe of the BitTorrent protocol. A resilient and efficient piece of tech that at its height was responsible for LARGE amounts of internet traffic (facilitated by sites like the TPB) and was (mostly) developed by just one guy: Bram Cohen.

Over a decade ago, he was kinda mentor to a founder cohort I was in. I remember him as a rather introverted geeky one and my friends were surprised why I keep talking to him, with a keen interest in tech-talks. Most people didn't know how awesome his work was/is. We stayed connected; he is currently doing a Blockchain + Climate company.

Chia: https://www.chia.net/

Re: The Pirate Bay's 20th Anniversary

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Post by standardly »

NikolaNovak wrote: post #36
seanw444 wrote: post #18

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I've always found it odd that people have such guttural reactions to cryptocurrency. It's a technology. Calm down. It's become like politics now. "Fuck Republicans, fuck conservative nonsense." is what I'd expect to hear, not getting pissed over an algorithm. Kinda brings me comedic relief.

But politics impact me and my family and the world we live in. And some technologies do too! So it's natural and probably good to have thoughts and perspectives and positions on politics and technologies that impact me and my family and the world we live in (rather than be apathetic). Should we avoid polarization, and arguing by memes, absolutely! But like perpetual motion machine and eugenics and racism and trickle…

baller comment. thank you

Re: The Pirate Bay's 20th Anniversary

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Post by chrisco255 »

5350-uiop-1130 wrote: post #66
seanw444 wrote: post #18

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I've always found it odd that people have such guttural reactions to cryptocurrency. It's a technology. Calm down. It's become like politics now. "Fuck Republicans, fuck conservative nonsense." is what I'd expect to hear, not getting pissed over an algorithm. Kinda brings me comedic relief.

> It's a technology. cryptocurrency is hated because it turns every action into a transaction. a system with mistrust as its core principle. where the enablement of scamming masquerades as freedom. basically thousands of incompatible pay-to-play messaging protocols all imbued with some pretty dark zero-sum incentives and fancy jargon

> basically a technology for transferring and swapping tokens whose value is based on speculation.

So it's a market. Like double entry bookkeeping. Are you similarly triggered by NASDAQ or Quickbooks or point of sale systems that use Postgres instead of a blockchain?

> its basically a pay-to-play messaging protocol with fancy jargon.

It's a fee based messaging protocol with a demand based pricing mechanic for limited block space. All messaging protocols are pay-to-play. Someone is paying for it and whatever infrastructure it runs on, even if it's free for you (via ads, spyware, etc). Only difference with a blockchain is that the infrastructure costs and fees are transparent, and it avoids dependency on a central actor.

Re: The Pirate Bay's 20th Anniversary

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Post by gandalfgreybeer »

toby- wrote: post #32
gandalfgreybeer wrote: post #9

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I have torrented but am not very familiar in this field, but I have to say, this is the first time I've ever heard of gnutella. Less technical people I know have heard or used TPB and are likely never to have heard of this as well. I am curious (although I'll be googling as well) on what makes it better. As a personal preference though, if given the option, I would rather make a project that used by many reliably tha…

They may not have heard of Gnutella, the network, but they may be familiar with some of the software that supports it: LimeWire, Shareaza, BearShare, WireShare, FrostWire, iMesh, and probably others I'm forgetting.

LimeWire I’m familiar with and one they’ve definitely used but that seems like a thing from 20 years ago. And by the 2010s I don’t know if anyone still used it. Given that, now I’m curious on why it was mentioned to be better than TBP which survived while Limewire (not sure about the others but have never heard of them) didn’t.
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